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[moonraven]

My theory about JZer being 15 appears to have been correct.

In my ESL literature classes the 10th graders always want to read and write about SIDDHARTHA.

If one just waits, everything comes to him....

[Weona]

[Weona]

Oof!! And here we are.

[JZer]

[snielz]

You are amazing...

I know what you mean. 15 year-olds are so stupid. Usually when they are talking I just see their mouth moving and imagine they are talking about the ways the 21st century geo-political trends are crystallizing in the political parties of the Balkan states. Then when they are done, I just nod Uh-huh and dismiss them with disdain. In fact, I don't even consider them really humans yet until they are at least 16. In my book, if you kill a 15 year old, it is no worse than abortion. Please, JZer, come back when you aren't 15.

[JZer]

and I bet that Moonraven's students are asking her to read Demian I am sure they have nothing better to do in their free time.

They probably also ask you if they can read Faust or The Sorrow of a Young Werter.

[matttheboy]

[moonraven]

JZer: A book translated into English is perfectly legitimate in an ESL course.

You didn't know that, because you are not an ESL teacher.

Translated works are quite common in courses given through English and World Lit departments, as well. My students in Intro to World Literature (for Adolescents was the unwritten part of the course title) when I was teaching at NIU in the US read everything in translation, as the class was offered in the English department. In addition to Demian, The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge, The Sorrows of Young Werther and Young T�rless, they also read Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, Hamlet, Confessions of a Mask, The Cubs and several other works of fiction.

And I am afraid you outed yourself again--someone who is supposedly pursuing a Master's in German should know the correct title of Goethe's "Sturm und Drang" novel....

[JZer]

[JZer]

[moonraven]

That was much more than a typo.

I assume that your first language is English. Why anyone whose first language is English and who is pursuing a graduate degree in German would translate Die Leiden des jungen Werther as The Sorrow of a Young Werter is simply beyond me.

To satisfy my language requirement in grad school I translated Goethe's "Venezianischen Epigrammen". Mercifully, I have forgotten most of the German I knew then--but not to the point of making the kind of error that you made--which would not even be made by a second-level German language student!

And in respect to your second non-sequitur, I supose you think that ESL students shouldn't read anything translated into English--that ESL students are purists and university students don't have to be? Give me a break.

In fact, give all of us a break.

[Knappstar]

What is it with this board and flame wars?

I am currently living and working in South Korea, but I would like to come work in Latin America one day, so I frequent this board.
It seems like every topic disinegrates into a flame war between Moonraven and someone else.

My advice to posters of this board: just ignore Moonraven! She seems to be the rogue poster on this board... kind of your Kim Jong Il. Only she doesn't have a nucelar arsenal; just annoying words. Much easier to ignore.

Andy

[moonraven]

If we ignored everyone who disagreed with us, no dialog would ever happen. That's the George W. Bush approach to foreign affairs--ignore disagreements or try to suppress them by bombing the crap out of the person who disagrees with us.

Which is not to say there is much dialog on this board--but that's largely because there are many posters who are a) just after women and cheap booze here in Latin America and b) have little or no knowledge about or respect for the area where they are making a living.

Seems like you're a troublemaker even before you get here. What else are you doing to prepare yourself for the Latin American experience?

[matttheboy]

[ElNota]