Job Discussion Forums

[ChrisRose]

A quick survery.

What would be the averavge minium acceptable rate, if working for an educational charity?

If you could be kind enough to outline (ESL quals), it would be useful.

I am trying to calculate some proposed pay bands.



P.S. Don't flame me with regards to it being a charity! They need teachers, and I guess they will have to pay as close to the market rates as possible.

Give me soem numbers to crunch, please.

[dandan]

My rates:

Real charity (e.g. UNICEF etc.) = $0 of course

BS pseudo-charity (e.g. CECES etc) = wouldn't touch 'em with a barge pole

[ChrisRose]

Not CECES la

But more info required la.



This is a real charity, trust me otherwise I wouldn�t be working round the clock missing out on a couple of weeks supply teaching at a local International school.

Most charities offer some form of an honorarium. So I am trying to figure out some new form of remmuneration packages. They need NET's to teach extra curricular courses, but ALL procceds (less honorarium, or call it teachers pay) go directly to their community programs for dissadvantaged kids. NO middleman taking a cut of the back of educators!

But it's a sticky wicket. They need to have formal pay structors in place as I suppose they are competing with the private sector.


How the F*** to sweeten the pot?
Monthly social functions? Workshops? Give me some ideas pls.

[AndyinHK]

That is a though one Chris.


I volunteered for a group home for disadvantaged kids and did not request any sort of payment, but they did offer $100 per hour. Due to my contract with my school at the time I could not accept payment, but did get permission to volunteer. (BTW I do not need a work permit - I guess you have to consider that because it is illegal for people to even do volunteer work if they are not PR's.)

Hope this helps a little.

[ChrisRose]

Of course.

With regards to payments for NET's, I have spoken to the admin. and they are willing to get ALL necessary paperwork approved.

However, I believe that genuine teachers should be remunerated for their work. I used to believe that all charity work was free. Many years ago I was disgusted when I discovered that the upper echelons of most charities were on very nice packages.

In the context of teaching, you can hardly have less qualified "teachers" getting paid and the genuine article doing it for free on regular basis.

Hence, I am scratching my head on a pay formula with teachers� benefits etc. Don�t' get me wrong, this is well below the private sector remunerations. But as I think I pointed out, the student fees for the extra curricular courses are peanuts. I just need to get the courses and teacher training developed for the lesser teachers, along with a suitable remuneration.

Currently I am looking at offering a free in house TESOL for existing teachers, institutional memberships to various organizations, the possibility of free workshops, and social functions etc.

ALL COMMENTS, suggestions etc, MOST WELCOME!

[once again]

People who are dependent visa holders via HK residents can work here quite legally, so why can't they do volunteer work? For that matter, there must be thousands of work sponsored visa holders doing volunteer work.
AndyinHK, can you tell us where you came by your information?

[ChrisRose]

As far as I understand the dependant visa issue, it breaks down like so.

Dependants whom arrived pre 1997.
Secondly, I think there are different restrictions on differing nationalities.


Anyway, dependant or not, need people with at least certification in ESL.

[AndyinHK]

Hi Onceagain

You're right... if the dependent visa holder was issued a visa before July 2003.

Go to info.gov.hk and click on govt dept, immigration...

You can also lookup emigra.com.hk (I think that's the website) They're lawyers that help people process visa applications.

Cheers.

[once again]

Thanks Andy