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uncle billy



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: From the desk of Uncle Billy: 2 Reply with quote

Kudos to B.K. and P.Q. you would think that they work for the MLIars and not HCT CERT. If they are wondering why some teachers haven't told them they will not be working for HCT next year this about sums it up.

I would like to thank a special MLI teacher for contributing this. I concur with them that the circumstances in this case do warrant a more public forum!

"Normally this sort of message should be delivered privately. However, I think the circumstances in this case warrant a more public forum. I write here as a disinterested party as none of upcoming changes related to the administrative switchover apply to me. It does, though, affect the lives of many of my friends and colleagues whom I have known for years. I will not sit idly by watching what they are going through without saying something. I cannot speak for everybody, but I know I speak for some.

I refer to certain assurances made over the course of several meetings between staff and HCT representatives. More specifically, the timing of delivery of contracts, HCT tickets back in to the UAE, the HCT personnel officer, and the recent salary raise. I want to state clearly that I am not accusing individuals of intentionally lying - for all I know, these assurances were made in good faith at the time. Yet I remember clearly, and it was unambiguously, publicly, and often emphatically stated that:

1) contracts would be ready for signing by mid April. It has been a month and a half since then - hardly good timing that allows staff to measure their alternatives.

2) staff who are staying on could outprocess before taking leave, fly out under GHQ, and fly back in under HCT. Not so now.

3) an HCT Personnel Officer would be on-site to help out with outprocessing procedures and to serve as a point of contact with HCT. Some people are already starting outprocessing and it appears we are on our own.

4) should the 15% raise occur, it would be factored in the calculation of salaries for the new contracts. A firm "no" now.

I asked several people to be absolutely sure that my memory did not fail me. It didn't.

Delays and modifications are understandable, but complete reversals are harder to justify. You could make an argument that in many situations an oral promise is not legally binding. I grant you this, but most people would agree that an oral promise is ethically binding, and if it cannot be kept, some sort of retraction, apology, or acknowledgement is expected, depending on the weight of the promise itself - and it is safe to say that the stakes are fairly high here.

Those of us who have been here for some time understand that circumstances can change rather suddenly and are often out of control of the spokesperson. I, like many, felt a sense that things just might be different this time when I attended these meetings, given the good reputation HCT has. But I have to say that even I was surprised with the complete about-face on these issues. What disheartens me most, though, is the fact that no mention has been made of the glaring disparity between what was said before and what is being said now. People have made plans based on what was said publicly, in a formal meeting, by a representative of the incoming administration. Disruption of these plans is a source of financial loss and emotional hardship to staff and their family members. Moreover, it undermines basic trust. This does not lay a good foundation for future staff loyalty. Some sort of acknowledgement that promises were not fulfilled might go some way in restoring that trust, be it public or private, formal or informal.

The above being said, I hope that things go more smoothly here on out for everyone, whether you are staying or leaving, staff or admin, HCT or MLI."
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That pretty much sums it up or at least as people have been telling me as it went along.

Everyone had great hopes that things would get straightened out when HCT took over. But, it appears to me that the same 'folks' who had made the year before such a nightmare were and are still controlling the rules. The repeated changes of direction are classic for one group - while very rare at HCT.

The big question mark in my mind for those of you who stay is who will really be making the rules next year? Will HCT be as autonomous as they are within their own programs or will the same gang out back be playing their 'yes, you can' 'no, you can't' game. Presumably (hopefully?) HCT will be able to abide by the contract which has obviously been a nightmare to hammer out.

All through this I have felt sorry for the CERT guys who had to be the messengers. Assuming that they want to keep their jobs, they likely had to take great care exactly how they passed on the information. This is a perfect example of why I wouldn't have ever gone into managment... Embarassed

VS
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uncle billy



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
This is a perfect example of why I wouldn't have ever gone into managment... Embarassed

VS


Why not? You seem to spin things quite nicely! Sounds like a perfect fit for management.
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well-travelled



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS is too nice & sensible to be in management - especially HCT-style management!! Anyway, someone would come along and screw her up in the end.

And what's this "given the good reputation HCT has"?? Read down these pages and you'll see that a number of us are pointing out that this ain't necessarily so - and that the HCT hype (in certain colleges at least) is just that - hype. And it's about time that this was made clear.

The Middle East is, in general, a hell-hole when it comes to professionalism and fairness and job security. (But, there again, isn't everywhere these days??)What's happening at MLI is hardly out of the ordinary - but I do feel for those people - especially those with families - who are going to get really screwed up by management policies, or lack of them.

It's a rough old world - but, for f***'s sake - this ain't what education is supposed to be about.

well-travelled
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:


Everyone had great hopes that things would get straightened out when HCT took over. But, it appears to me that the same 'folks' who had made the year before such a nightmare were and are still controlling the rules. The repeated changes of direction are classic for one group - while very rare at HCT.

The big question mark in my mind for those of you who stay is who will really be making the rules next year? Will HCT be as autonomous as they are within their own programs or will the same gang out back be playing their 'yes, you can' 'no, you can't' game.
VS


VS, can you clarify what 'folks' you are referring to who are 'controlling the rules' at the MLI? Can you tell us who this group is that you suspect must be responsible for the 'repeated changes'? Would you mind shedding light on what you mean by the '"yes, you can", "no, you can't"' game?

Thanks from a curious observer.
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grand fromage



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well-travelled wrote:
The Middle East is, in general, a hell-hole when it comes to professionalism and fairness and job security. well-travelled


I agree with you completely WT. However, this is a good time to bring up a couple of exceptions as we had no choice but to dwell on the ***holes who are left. I'd like to bring up Jon P. , Dave P. and Vance S. as the only supervisors at MLI that never compromised themselves and stayed professional till the end. Yes, till the end as one quit 2 years ago and the other two had to leave when AMIDEAST was fired around the same time. As far as everyone else is concerned, present and past, they don't give a rat's *** about anybody else but themseslves. Did I miss someone, present or past?

BTW, I tried to stay quiet about the last events as I am still in shock. I might also say something I'll regret later so I'll limit myself to expressing my solidarity with everyone stuck in the middle of this mess (myself not excluded Sad ) Someone is getting rich at our expense again, except this time it's personal. I am thinking of letting them know this the best way I can: tearing up the contract and putting it in an envelope for them to open. Boy, I hope they get a lot of confetti this Saturday Wink Good luck deciding potential deCERTers!
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seemore



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grand fromage wrote:
this is a good time to bring up a couple of exceptions as we had no choice but to dwell on the ***holes who are left. I'd like to bring up Jon P. , Dave P. and Vance S. as the only supervisors at MLI that never compromised themselves and stayed professional till the end. Yes, till the end as one quit 2 years ago and the other two had to leave when AMIDEAST was fired around the same time. As far as everyone else is concerned, present and past, they don't give a rat's *** about anybody else but themseslves. Did I miss someone, present or past?


You seem to cast the net of judgement with relative aplomb, Mr. Fromage. Would it be fair to say that you are without faults such as those whom you accuse of looking out only for themselves? While many would agree that the names you mention here are men of good standing, be careful whom you praise and villify because you don't know the full story, and I dare say you never will. You and others like you who are so quick to criticize others on this forum would do well to mark the words, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

That being said, there are some things I think we'd agree on. Like you, I wish that CERT officials would get a heap of confetti when contracts are expected due. This might form part of a resounding message to them of how unacceptable the handling of the MLI takeover has been. You might be surprised at how many people, in administration as well as in the teaching staff, would like to see this takeover fail, if only to show that HCT isn't necessarily the answer to all the problems that come with educational ventures under the aegis UAE military (and let me tell you, the challenges are formidable). However, let's be realistic. You know and I know that most teachers will sign their contracts, because, just like the management you are so quick to condemn, teachers come to the UAE with mainly one purpose in mind, and that is for greater material gain. A broad generalization, yes, but one that most would agree with. Few teachers have the wherewithall to walk away from so good a package as can be found for teachers in the UAE, and I suspect that you will be among them at the end of the day. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and "just say no"? Why not move on to another job, or better yet, another part of the world, or will you "compromise" yourself just like the rest?


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grand fromage



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seemore, in all fairness to current and past coordinators, I have voiced what is a personal opinion and have let others add to the list if they wish. If I haven't made this point clear, my apologies and I hope this issue is now behind us. I guess time will show if others agree with me or not.

I am a little concerned by the personal tone of your final words. Unless you are a supervisor and feel that I excluded you from my shortlist, I don't see a reason why you should be threatened by my previous "compromise" comments. If you are one, maybe now's a good time to tell us why we should think anybody that ran the show for the last 2 years deserves our respect. Yes, there are varying degrees of compromising that current supervisors have achieved, but IMHO there isn't anyone there I still have much respect for. I am talking strictly about the western supervisors hired for their wealth of expertise and extraordinary qualifications Laughing .

BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if supervisors join the list of whining staff on this forum as they seem to be the ones who have been seriously screwed by CERT themselves. Yes, if the rumor is true, all supervisors will have a 75% teaching load and a 1000 Dirhams more a month than teachers (that means a salary cut from around 16 thousand and change before the military raise to barely a measly 14 grand).

Now if I were a supervisor who just spent months helping CERT cut out the "fat", (the stories of supervisors using the CERT take-over as a way to get rid of people they didn't like are well known! That includes people with or without families and in one case a whole department! Throw in a few less-popular-supervisor-casualties into the picture and it's a regular soap opera in the making!) I'd feel at least a bit betrayed. All that compromising for a lousy 1000 chips more than the people I helped get rid of! The thrown in teaching hours are of course adding insult to injury. Poor guys or gals Wink

Seemore, if I got you all wrong, please try to find it in yourself to forgive me Wink

P.S. seemore, I might have already done all those things you so eloquently ask of me in your closing sentence. Or than again maybe not. I might even be writing this from a place thousands of miles away and basing all this on stories of my informants. maybe you never even met me. Damn, I am not even sure if I ever worked there at all. Military Lan... what? I guess you'll never know Wink See you in your office on Saturday Wink Then again .... Laughing
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