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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Uhmmm...in case everyone has forgotten what he said, he is to give a lecture on WESTERN CULTURE, *NOT* POLITICS nor RELIGION. USA Today and World Street Journal? My God! You may as well be giving a copy of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest to a group of apes! Some of the topics are just TOO deep.
When they say "Western Culture", they want to know about things like the difference between Chinese students and Western students, Western table manners, what people in the West do during their spare time. They don't want to know (nor can they understand) anything heavy-duty.
Unless requested and asked for, keep everything simple! |
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dajiang

Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 663 Location: Guilin!
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| They don't want to know (nor can they understand) anything heavy-duty. |
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You are really not there to teach but spew information for their spongy minds.
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| One final thing... DO NOT assume a Chinese student, or a group of them, can make a decision. It is very hard to get a response from students in class, let alone decision making. |
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IT is a fallacy to believe you can treat Chinese university students as mature adults!
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Well, you guys sure have high opinions of your students eh.
I find this pretty incredible. You obviously have no respect for your students. I wonder how this attitude would come across to your students in your lessons.
They are NOT stupid, and it's an insult to think they are.
Not being able to communicate well doesnt mean they're mentally challenged. They are at university, and it took lots of hard work for them to get there.
Now I agree that there are many issues here that can give you some trouble in teaching or lecturing them, but stupidity on their side is not one of them.
To the OP: I think you CAN deal with 'heavy' topics like religion, provided you explain it well, and if you would lead up to it. Some foreknowledge is needed, so you could give them an assignment to find information and do some basic research before dealing with harder topics.
I'd say any historical period would be a good topic to do, like the middle ages and the crusades and how they affect the world today.
Also, I think you can use a copy of America Today, but you have to see which sections and words need more clarification. (You could even translate some words into Chinese, but obviously try to keep that to a minimum to avoid making mistakes and confuse the students.) But using authentic materials is always a good idea.
However, as a first lecture it would probably be too hard. For a start I think brsmith had a good idea with Yao Ming. It's appealing to them, current and can be turned into a serious debate.
Anyway, I'd also try to put yourself in their position. Imagine you're learning a foreign language, and you'd have a lecture in that language. How would it come across to you? What would need more clarification?
If you do your best to really explain something to them, you'll do a good job. Do not however underestimate, or patronise them.
Good luck,
Dajiang |
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Tessio

Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 140 Location: In a New York state of mind.
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I appreciate everyones input and will heed your advice wisely, hopefully. I do agree that I need to focus on simple topics and then, if warranted, go from there.
I do like the Chinese in America topic, in particular the studying abroad idea. What I wonder about, though, is how to explain a typical US college freshmans ability to juggle school and frat parties.
I have a funny feeling that the students there enjoy different extracurricular activities. I wonder if they drink Tea Bongs? |
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Tessio

Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 140 Location: In a New York state of mind.
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Please excuse my lame attempt at humor. I am truly looking forward to this exciting opportunity to help others learn about my culture and our language.
I believe that in time my and the students expectations will be more than fulfilled. Ideally, I will establish a rapport with the students and satisfy their language needs and cultural curiosities.
Thanks for everyones suggestions. |
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Mr D Improbably
Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 468
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I saw it as a light-hearted closing remark, rather than an unsuccessful attempt at genuine hilarity. Thus no apology is necessary. Bear in mind that, in China, to apologise for an attempt at humour, however lame, is a sign of weakness. Instead, one should either pretend it never happened, or burst into laughter at one's own joke in the hope that others will support one.
I'm not sure you've mentioned which university you will teach at. This seems fairly relevant- there's been a lot of cynicism here about the students' ability and motivation, but this will vary greatly. I hope that there are SOME good students at Qinghua University, for example... Taking both sets on board seems best- some students will be unable to understand, some will not want to listen, many might appreciate something simple, but others might be able/willing to tackle something bigger. Some crowd-pleasing, fairly simple stuff could lead into deeper issues, or even vice versa... |
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