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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Do you like your job? Reply with quote

In your life's work, how does your present position rate?
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching in a Japanese Jr. High School is definitely the best job I've ever had.

At least since high school.... I had a sweet summer job with a company as Vice-President in charge of parking my ass in a Barcalounger. My boss would take his daily, afternoon nap and I would do likewise... Much more so when he left on summer holidays, leaving me by myself. Then, whenever a board member would walk in, we'd try to both look really busy...

<sigh> Good times....
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I may ask, how long have you been at your present position?

And is it a coed school?

Just one more thing, can you give us an idea as to the duration of your work life?
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, getting personal are we? Smile Well, I'm not about to post up my CV so you can peruse through the places where I've worked, but before I came to Japan I've worked (among others) at a telco for 3 years (high-stress, constant company/union issues), engineering consulting firm for 2 (high-stress), at a community college for 1 (program lost budget/funding)... Then in Japan, so far, I've worked at an eikaiwa for 1 (couldn't stand it), at a junior high school for 1.5 (current position).

Yes, the school is co-ed. (Public school system).
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only did part time jobs at university and some time in the restaurant trade (low pay, highly stressful, temperamental chefs) before coming to japan. Also worked in a finance company as an office boy in my youth. Did a stint in the Army as well (reserves, or Saturday and Sunday soldiers)

Job I have now is OK but salary has gone down since a move last year and job security is the biggest worry. Other than that its more professionally satisfying than working in an eikaiwa and trying to make ends meet.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't personal, just interested to know at what point in your work life you were able to enjoy your job, which I assume you do.

Also, I'd say that you are way ahead of the game as far job satisfaction in Japan, being happy at your 2nd position in as many years. Don't think many people could say the same thing.

On a personal note, do you think you have reached the job satisfaction plateau in Japan? If not, what position would you aspire to?
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ionix-



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2. How did you find the transition from Telco to teaching English? I am about to do the same thing. I will be arriving in Japan on August 2nd thus leaving my Telco job as a network engineer. I am sure you don't miss troubleshooting SS7 stack issue but do you miss engineering at all? If so, what do you do to keep yourself up to date and cope with such a drastic career change?
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ionix- wrote:
JimDunlop2. How did you find the transition from Telco to teaching English? I am about to do the same thing. I will be arriving in Japan on August 2nd thus leaving my Telco job as a network engineer. I am sure you don't miss troubleshooting SS7 stack issue but do you miss engineering at all? If so, what do you do to keep yourself up to date and cope with such a drastic career change?


ionix: Although I had to know OSI (not SS7) for my entrance test, I spent most of my time troubleshooting upper layers, starting with the TCP/IP stack and figuring out why clients were getting packet loss. Most of it was layer 8 issues: PEBCAK errors (Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard)... Sorry. I should have clarified my background a little better...

My job with the telco was in three different departments: customer service/billing support; repair; ADSL tech support (1st level). So, I can talk someone through dumping their TCP/IP stack in any Windows OS while filling out a trouble ticket, drinking my coffee and switching in/out of "mute" on my headset as I argue with my manager regarding my "call-handle time" as I IM the guy in the cubicle next to me to figure out where the "gang" is going for lunch all at the same time. Rolling Eyes

All three departments were inbound call centres, dealing with the general public. I learned a lot about how to explain stuff to people, and how to "educate" them in things they usually didn't understand. (Like their bills). Believe me, the cliche about people using CD-ROM trays as cup holders and looking for the "any key" on their keyboard are NOT exagerations. They are just so common that we don't really bother mentioning them anymore. The REAL GOOD stories are quite interesting.... Twisted Evil

My engineering company job was not as an engineer, but as a corporate image desginer/desktop publisher. Companies within our "umbrella" would approach us with requests ranging from anything as easy as a PR brochure advertising whatever (stuff usually above my head) to as complex as a complete image re-design, from the ground up -- including new business cards, company logo, etc, etc... I also did a fair bit of technical editing and writing to fit the above job description. It was an intense job and the deadlines got ugly (and completely unrealistic) sometimes... Like when my boss walked in wearing a full suit and wanted annual reports made from scratch, printed in color and bound for a shareholder's meeting he had in an hour.

To answer your questions though, I miss my old jobs slightly, but not the stress associated with them. I still do a bit of D/P but it's mostly for friends and my own personal projects. As for the technical end of things, I still troubleshoot my friends' computers/networks/internet connections in exchange for supper and beers. When my own network goes down I know how to get the source of the issue so that when I actually DO phone IP tech support, I tell THEM what's gone down. As for the transition? It was a fairly easy one. If you can explain to a 72-yr old grandmother why she has "pro-rated" charges on her phone bill, teaching a 15-hr old Japanese student transitive and intransitive verbs is a cakewalk.

Sweetsee: Well, it's hard to say. If now you're the happiest you've been to date, it's kinda tough to guess if you could be happier still. I used to have a co-worker who would answer "How are you?" with "If I was any better, I'd have to hire someone to help me enjoy it."

But no, seriously... I've actually been transferred recently. Starting in the fall, the BoE wants me (along with another teacher) to spearhead a new pilot program where we will teach F/T at the city's various elementary schools. I don't know if this will make me happier or not.... My longer term goals are not in that direction. Starting next year I would like to begin a distance M.Ed. degree program (IF possible -- haven't found any yet)... and work in Japan as I earn my degree.. Following this I anticipate moving, perhaps to the U.S. (I am Canadian though). My goal is to be a school principal at some point.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, good luck!
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canuck



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like mine. I work at a co-ed junior/senior high school. I don't team teach. Three one hour classes a day, maximum. It usually averages between two and three. End of term sucks because of making tests and marking them, but it's nice when it's done. My co-workers are also excellent people. I have to work less than 150 days a year, but I'm paid for the whole year. I use my free time and vacations to travel and study Japanese.

I've also worked in a Japanese software company, but I wasn't teaching. I worked on a computer project. That was also and excellent experience, but a lot less holiday time.

I don't think it's the typical experience, but my time in Japan has been excellent.
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck, sounds like you have it made! Smile

Nice to have a positive thread for a bit.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is contagious!

Right-on, Canuck.
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Marika



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: lucked out Reply with quote

I really lucked out with my job. I teach at a private kindergarten school. You'd think working with kids aged 2-5 that not much teaching is involved. Our school is expceptional. I work with the 2 year olds and 5 years olds. Their English ability is amazing and they are so smart.
The director and his wife treat myself and the other teacher like there own children. They have been very helpful to us.
We get all holidays off plus a month of paid vacation.
We have a guide line to follow and certain books we must use but have totally freedom in the classroom.
I would have to say we are in the top percent of best jobs in Japan. I've been here for 10 months now and not once have I felt like not going into work. I've really been very lucky.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am moderately happy at my current job. I'm not trying to be a jerk here as I know that my job (in a university) is much better than the vast majority of the teaching jobs out there in Japan. I just don't get any job satisfaction anymore and am planning my exit. The benefits have slowly eroded and certainly the job is not nearly as good as when I started 3 years ago. My take home pay is even less than it was when I started too.

I am over half done my distance masters and do get a lot of satisfaction professionally-wise from that.

All in all, I know that the basis for my lack of enthusiam is due to the nature of the Japanese uni student. They really are the worst students I have ever taught and I look forward to teaching students who are motivated and unafraid of making sounds come out of their mouth.
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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to teach at a private school that specialized in training interpreters and translators, so our students were all adults, highly motivated and intermediate to advanced levels. I really enjoyed teaching them, I had great colleagues and a professional work environment. I think that is why I stayed in Japan as long as I did (almost 14 years).
Sherri
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