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sarah29 · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Philippines

anybody who can help me find a job. thanks much.

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

sarah29 · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Philippines

thank you for reminding me. i overlooked.

i am going to be 29 this november. I've earned my bachelor's degree majoring in theology and philosophy, in 1996 and I have been teaching since then.i'm halfway in my masters in education too. i have had teaching experiences in primary, high school and college. i am currently in Jilin Province so it would be great to find a job nearby or within the locality.

Midlothian Mapleheart · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 623 Location: Elsewhere

Edited to remove offensive content.

Middy

sarah29 · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Philippines

[quote]Theology and philosophy would seem to make you better suited to counselling work. I don't want to discourage you, and I'm certain you'll find employment, but I find your post distressing. [/quote]

This is some suggestion but is this the best you can do? I know what I am capable of doing and I wouldn't let you put me off.

I don't think you perfectly understand.

tofuman · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937

"Non-native speaker
Academic background in non-education fields
No effort to upgrade qualifications for TEFL
Substandard punctuation and capitalization in writing"

Middy, I've never met Sarah. I have no idea about the quality of her spoken English. I have known and worked with many other Filipinas in the past, however. Their English skill was good enough to work in a litigious field where legal counsel oversaw their qualifications.

As for writing ability, what have you noticed about the punctuation and capitalization practice of certain other writers on this board? You do make a good point, though.

TEFL qualifications? I went through CELTA training and found it to be, for the most part, an absolute waste of time for this environment.

Academic background? How many English teachers here do you believe are academically qualified to TESOL? Granted, many of us who are not are working in grunt jobs, with moronic FAOs at pseudo schools; however, I can with certainty tell you that a sweet spirited Filipina is way more qualifed than I am to teach primary children and a host of others.

I, however, don't pretend to be qualified or capable. Neither are required in this place. What is required is to please your FAO and the students. In some cases, doing that makes you of of questionable value in a classroom. Embracing academic dishonesty, doctored grades, sloth, and indifference in order to keep a job hardly attests to the competence of a teacher.

vdrose · Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 58

Midlothian Mapleheart · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 623 Location: Elsewhere

Edited to remove offensive content.

Middy

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

Sarah,
One piece of advice I will give you is this. I will never consider any teacher who has any grammatical or spelling mistakes in their opening e-mail. This applies to native and non-native speakers.

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

This is the old boys/old girls network at its worst again!

We are native speakers and no one can tell us when we make the most unbelievable grammar errors or speak with the most outrageously parochial English accent - we are by birth entitled to jobs teaching English...

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

Roger,
I know you are the champion for the non-native speaker. I don't think every native speaker has the right to teach. I think we have all seen alot of native-speaking FT's who have no right teaching. My last posting applied to native and non-native speakers. I do believe there are good non-native teachers out there but looking at the OP's grasp of English, would you hire her?

Volodiya · Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject:

Across our broad country, there must be scores of non-native English teachers. I was recently crossing the campus of one of the most prestigious in our Province and met one such. She spoke English with no obvious grammatical errors, and just a hint of her native accent (The Nederlands).

GoPies · Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Melbourne

Sarah has made three posts. They include:

william wallace · Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between

Nothing to say.

tofuman · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937

Is this racism or what? Why is it that posters such as GoPies are parsing Sarah's post for "mistakes"?

I could direct you to a couple of posters whose posts could do with quite a bit of editing. One has been teaching here for years.

If you think that "thanks much" is a sin, perhaps you are the "idiot." "Thanks much" is a colloquialism used by native speakers in America. Perhaps it is the missing capital "T" that offends you? Sarah, take note.

The CELTA program that I went through featured an attractive British woman who made spelling errors during Celta training. She made them often enough to be noticed.

Orthography, while certainly important, has little, if anything, to do with language acquisition.