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moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

I believe she was asking for advice from more experienced folks.

And I believe I am certainly included in the set of more experienced folks.

In about 50% of the jobs I have had here, I worked side by side with folks in their early 20s--some of whom also saved about half their salaries (the ones that didn't drink them up.)

What more do you want? My CV posted, with dates and salary figures?

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Oh, moonraven, don't take it so personally. Yes, denises asked for advice from the experienced people here, and you fall into that category hands down.

What I took issue with was that denises is only 24 and just starting out, with a long-range outlook, but you only offered the fact that after 15 years of teaching, you have been able to save what you did, yet you did not explain what it took to do that, nor what sort of jobs you held in doing that. To me, that was the most valuable advice. To exclude that meant denises had little background to go on, and she could not expect to just leap into the field and do what you did right away. No offense, just a lot of missing data.

Oh, and if you want to get snide about it...

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Sorry, Glenski. She hasn't asked me for my CV. Probably she knows that would be an invasion of privacy?

Nomad Dan · Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Myanmar

I fear some people are born to grow old and be snide, Glenski...

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

While some are just RUDE, routinely make foolish comments and are prejudiced against their elders (and possibly their betters?)

Nomad Dan · Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Myanmar

Glass Houses...

Zero Hero · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944

Oh, no. Did someone go and rattle Moonraven's cage again?

For someone who claims that "language is for communication" (a quite shocking and laughable example of teleological postulating) Moonraven certainly does not do much of it. Mind you, referring to oneself in the third person and prefixing it with a definite article tends to have that effect on people, doesn't it?

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

You are CHOOSING to rattle my cage. Incidentally, Ravens are not tame birds--we do not live in cages. Nor are we well disposed to suffering fools gladly.

Too bad you have had nothing to contribute to the forum. But then, I don't recall that you ever have had.

Too much time on your hands?

If language did not have as its end communication, it would not exist. Get with the program.

Zero Hero · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944

Sweetsee · Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything

Entirely possible to get 2 months off a year, or more.

Get a secondary school position by day and teach conversation in the evenings. When school is out, get someone to cover your evening classes.

Good luck to you!

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Zero:

Sorry to hear that you are so envious of me. Envy just makes one bitter and sad--and prematurely dried-up. You can put your dictionary away. It will not give you the PhD you need to have.

I don't have to JET off to the Dead Sea--it is 40 minutes away.

Zero Hero · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944

Now that really contributed to the thread, didn't it?

seanaway · Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 32

This seems to keep coming up in my discussions with teachers. We all love what we do but really need time out for ourselves. It's very difficult to keep going for 11 months year in year out. The main problem of course is if we take time out, it's usually unpaid. Other than that, we end up in a place just for the money. Neither are ideal. My own experience has been just that. So, I've spent time thinking outside the box and I've realised that as teachers we have skills in demand in other areas than strictly teaching. I'm working on developing a site for teachers who want to stay in teaching but who really need to boost income if TEFL is to be an affordable, pleasant, long term option. I know so many great teachers who have been lost to TEFL because they simply couldn't afford to stay in it and meet long term commitments.
Anyone interested, please visit my 'Summer Jobs..' posting and take the poll. I really want to pursue this idea but only if the interest is really out there.