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Chris420



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: New teacher (no degree) looking for work Reply with quote
Hello. My name is Chris. I'm looking for a place in Asia where I can work and save money. I don't have a degree. Which countries would you guys recommend? I don't have any teaching experience at all and I heard a rumor that you can go into another country right after you get out of high school. I don't know much about the ESL community, but that's why I'm here, cuz I'm pretty sure you guys may be able to give me some good advice. Now I heard that in Taiwan, some teachers with no degree go in and they work on a tourist visa and go on a visa run every 2 months and that they usually find work in Taiwan by looking in the papers and using recruiting services. Do the police check out the schools once in a while to see if there's any illegal teachers there? Also, how exactly would I teach english to people who don't know any english at all? (considering the fact I don't speak their language) Now I have a question about Thailand. I hear that you can legally work there with out a work visa. How true is that? And if you don't have a degree to qualify for the Thai work visa, which other type of visa do you go in on? I'd appreciate any advice you could give me. Thanks.
Chris420

p.s. Is it safe to walk into another country with no teaching experience?

p.p.s. I have a friend with a criminal record for murder. He was tried as a young offender in 1999 and he's out now. Can he get into another country to teach english? Click on this link to see the story.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/intl/article/0,9171,1107990510-25025-1,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/colo/colo108.htm
http://ca.fullcoverage.yahoo.com/fc/Canada/Alberta_School_Shooting/news_stories_1.html
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moot point



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It'll be tough for you to find work without a uni. degree or experience. Get an education first.
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marblez



Joined: 24 Oct 2004
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh my Lord. The Taber shooter?

Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chris,
What is your nationality? If you are American, you are out of luck in getting a work visa. If you are British, Aussie, New Zealander, or Canadian, and if you are 18-30 years old, you might qualify for a working holiday visa, which would allow you to work for a year.

If you can't qualify for that, the only ways to work legally in Japan without a degree are the following:

1. spouse visa, if you are married to a Japanese
2. dependent visa, if you are married to a non-Japanese with a FT job
3. student visa, if you are enrolled in a Japanese school

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Is it safe to walk into another country with no teaching experience?

Safe? What do you mean?

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how exactly would I teach english to people who don't know any english at all?

In Japan, you are not allowed to use Japanese in the classroom anyway, but if your students are beginners, you might have to use it a little, even though the school would prohibit it. There's more to it than just that, so, basically, as moot point suggests, learning how to do this (by getting the proper education beforehand) would be a wise decision.
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Jared



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: taber shooter Reply with quote
Okay Chris. What makes you think that Todd (Taber Shooter) would be able to leave Canada again? For murder? I don't think so. I highly dought Todd will ever get out of Canada again. And even if he did get a pardon, other countries will still have access to the record he once had. As soon as he got to Tokyo airport, they'd refuse him and send him back.
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It'll be tough for you to find work without a uni. degree or experience. Get an education first.
Now that you mention that, I saw some positons in China , Malaysia, or Cambodia that don't require that you have a degree. Now for Taiwan, Korea, and Japan, you need a degree. Just a piece of advice for you Chris, I'd stay away from Thailand. It's a beautiful place, I don't know if you need a degree or not, but I hear that even with a degree, teachers in Thailand don't make that much. Good place to visit, not to teach. (Unless you don't need to save money). See ya.
Jared
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Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just about Asia.

You could get a job with English Time here in Istanbul. There are no checks with regard to legality but you would have to do a visa run every 3 months. If you took all the hours going and lived frugally you could save money. PM me for more details
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Chris420



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Is it safe to walk into another country with no teaching experience?

Safe? What do you mean?
The reason why I asked that is because I wasn't sure if teaching experience was necessary. I just kinda wanna be prepared for the worst case of circumstances. Such as, what if I get fired from my job and stuff like that? Anyway do you need a degree for China?
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Chris,
What is your nationality? If you are American, you are out of luck in getting a work visa. If you are British, Aussie, New Zealander, or Canadian, and if you are 18-30 years old, you might qualify for a working holiday visa, which would allow you to work for a year.
I am a Canadian citizen. I thought about going to Japan under a WH visa, however I heard that you have to fly into Japan first, and then find a job. Now the fact that I don't know Japan at all and I'm not used to large cities, is it really easy to get lost in those cities? And about the job deal, is it possible to find one and get one lined up before going into Japan?
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If you can't qualify for that, the only ways to work legally in Japan without a degree are the following:

1. spouse visa, if you are married to a Japanese
2. dependent visa, if you are married to a non-Japanese with a FT job
3. student visa, if you are enrolled in a Japanese school
For the student visa, how many hours do you have to study per day/week, and how many hours are you allowed to work per day/week? I heard of a canadian woman who was jailed for working on a student visa. Is it possible she might have exceeded the legal ammount of hours she was allowed to work?
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