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JezzaYouBeauty!!



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: from great job/bad place to bad jobs/good place.... Reply with quote

Why can't it all just be perfect? Ahh...mumma mia

Now...admittedly...I did have one of the very better jobs in Korea. But the renumeration and benefits and actual work wasn't that much better or different than across the board.

And I suppose there are those of you out there with wicked jobs in japan....

But I have been here in Japan for over a month...after doing my time in Korea.

Yes, Korea is a comical place. You experience, see and hear so much that is unpleasant. Everyone else does. You read the stuff on Dave's Korea forums.....as well. Geez, it really is the pits.

You come to Japan......it's pretty cool. That's it. It ain't a bad place....maybe

But here...they're offering me the same salary as what I had in Korea (even though japan is 500,000 times more expensive to live in). There are ridiculous commuting times, to diferent places. Unlike Korea, where I lived a 5 minute walk away from work. Just ONE workplace. And I lived in an apartment that THEY paid for.

And here in Japan....the work hours seem double than Korea, as well as the work just being a bloody lot harder. Anyhow, this is just what i am coming across in my job search here in japan.

Gotta be optimistic right?! Or......ahh....

In the world....including Japan, where is a place that's a good fit for ESL teaching, where the job ain't too much of a grind, and get decent renumeration for it? Any ideas....can it be found here in Japan?

Mumma mia!

....anyhow, japan's great (slightly boring where I am though), life's great........sorta wish the old job situation was a bit nicer though.

Cya....
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where is a place that's a good fit for ESL teaching, where the job ain't too much of a grind, and get decent renumeration for it? Any ideas....can it be found here in Japan?


Assuming you are qualified for conversation schools only, expect wages in Japan to be fairly much the same across the board...about 250,000-280,000 yen/month. Work hours are also about the same...25-35 classroom contact hours per week. Most places don't send you to different schools, either.

Just keep looking. Can't say more without knowing more about your situation and goals.
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SEndrigo



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: from great job/bad place to bad jobs/good place.... Reply with quote

JezzaYouBeauty!! wrote:
In the world....including Japan, where is a place that's a good fit for ESL teaching, where the job ain't too much of a grind, and get decent renumeration for it? Any ideas....can it be found here in Japan?


haha, maybe if you have a Master's degree....I'm not an expert on this, maybe you should ask PAULH or Takibansei or one of the other gurus !

But I can tell you this....if you're working at an eikaiwa, chances of moving up in the world are slim indeed...

If you don't want to work in a university (for which you'd need an MA anyway), my advice is to get a gig teaching business classes...

they'll pay you more than an eikaiwa...it's more lucrative.

I know some people earning decent money teaching business classes....yes you may have to travel a bit but they pay is certainly better.
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the way to go in Japan is to try to line up a lot of private students in groups (business groups, groups of housewives, groups of small children). I have done a lot of group lessons, and even if one member of the group is absent, the teacher still gets paid. It takes time to set this up though. I think that your first 6months to a year in Japan should be spent networking and reputation building, and after that it can be quite lucrative. Don't give up too soon, Jezza; No one knows you here yet. Soon many people will be going back to their home countries for good, so network with as many foriegners as you can right now and make it known to them that you are looking to pick up privates. Many times, I have landed great gigs form private students. Word of mouth is how things are done here, and the more people you befriend or teach, the more chances you will have at finding good jobs.
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Brooks



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 1369
Location: Sagamihara

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have thought a bit about this. Taxes and the cost of living is less in Korea. And with a free apartment, it is pretty good.
Japan is expensive.
I have a Japanese wife too, but she would rather live in Japan.
She can teach Japanese, and in Korea I think we could save more money than we are currently.
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Sweetsee



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Takes time to work your way up to a good gig in Japan, anywhere really.
Work your butt off, never burn your bridges and keep your chin up.

Good luck to you,
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