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serenesanti
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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Location: Tempe, AZ
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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology? |
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Hello, all: This is my first post, so I guess I'll tell you a bit about myself. I'm a 27-yr old female from Tempe, AZ. I have my M.A. in Applied Linguistics and have taught as a Faculty Associate at both AZ State University and a local community college. I also have experience creating and facilitating faculty development workshops. I'll be moving abroad in mid-August and plan to go to either China or Taiwan.
So, I've just been offered a job by a recruiter (www.us-china-edu.com) at the Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology. Has anyone heard of this school? I'm a little concerned because they have no website (at least not one I can find). The pay is RMB 4000/month, and a fully-furnished apartment is provided. Also, the recruiter requires a payment of $300 once I have accepted the job offer. Is this typical of recruitment services?
I plan to ask the recruiter to provide much more info about the school and hopefully even pictures of the apartment, etc., but if any of you have experience with either the recruiter or the school, I'd really appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks much,
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology? |
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| serenesanti wrote: |
So, I've just been offered a job by a recruiter (www.us-china-edu.com) at the Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology. Has anyone heard of this school? I'm a little concerned because they have no website (at least not one I can find). The pay is RMB 4000/month, and a fully-furnished apartment is provided. Also, the recruiter requires a payment of $300 once I have accepted the job offer. Is this typical of recruitment services?
I plan to ask the recruiter to provide much more info about the school and hopefully even pictures of the apartment, etc., but if any of you have experience with either the recruiter or the school, I'd really appreciate your thoughts. |
It could be that the school doesn't really exist, or the recruiter deliberately change the name a bit so you can't find it on the Internet and then contact the school directly (thus losing their fee). Also, colleges and universities do "change" name when they go from college status to university status. ANyway, I did find a web site for Nanjing College of Information Technology (same initials) at www.njcit.edu.cn.
The web site you gave contained VERY little information about the recruiter and its services. It mentions no service fees and frankly, anyone here would tell you that you should not pay them a single penny since they get paid by the schools anyway. Tell them to give you the school's web site. I think you should deal directly with the school. For all we know, maybe the school is not even aware of you and the recruiter may actually be negotiating with some other school in Nanjing. |
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randyj
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Location: Nanjing, Jiangsu, China
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| The school does exist. It is a vocational institution. |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
Joined: 26 May 2005
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Location: Elsewhere
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Alex_P
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: Hangzhou. Zheijiang, China
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology? |
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| serenesanti wrote: |
Hello, all: This is my first post, so I guess I'll tell you a bit about myself. I'm a 27-yr old female from Tempe, AZ. I have my M.A. in Applied Linguistics and have taught as a Faculty Associate at both AZ State University and a local community college. I also have experience creating and facilitating faculty development workshops. I'll be moving abroad in mid-August and plan to go to either China or Taiwan.
So, I've just been offered a job by a recruiter (www.us-china-edu.com) at the Nanjing Communication Institute of Technology. Has anyone heard of this school? I'm a little concerned because they have no website (at least not one I can find). The pay is RMB 4000/month, and a fully-furnished apartment is provided. Also, the recruiter requires a payment of $300 once I have accepted the job offer. Is this typical of recruitment services?
I plan to ask the recruiter to provide much more info about the school and hopefully even pictures of the apartment, etc., but if any of you have experience with either the recruiter or the school, I'd really appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks much,
-Serene |
I concur with Midlothian. Never pay a recruiter to get you a job in China. NEVER. If you use a recruiter, they will charge the university a fee for placement.
There are many good recruiters in China and there are many websites available for those seeking work in China.
Do a search on this board. Or consult the Best Job Sites List on this forum. |
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Babala
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Henan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Serene
With your qualifications you can get a much higher-paying position. I advise you to weed through the job offers on the job board. It may be time-consuming but in the end, it will worth it to secure yourself the best position you can get. |
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serenesanti
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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Location: Tempe, AZ
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Thanks very much for the replies, everyone. This was my first job offer, and I do still have a few weeks before I plan to leave, so I think I will keep searching for something better. I'm leary of the recruitment fee and also of the fact that an Institute of Technology doesn't have a website. Makes me nervous.
Thanks!
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| serenesanti wrote: |
| Thanks very much for the replies, everyone. This was my first job offer, and I do still have a few weeks before I plan to leave, so I think I will keep searching for something better. I'm leary of the recruitment fee and also of the fact that an Institute of Technology doesn't have a website. Makes me nervous. |
Just so you know, you have a Master's degree and as such you should be offered a lot more (maybe double) than what they usually offer for foreign teachers. A Master's degree entitles you to work as a lecturer which pays a lot better. You'll be an actual foreign "expert". |
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wigan4
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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Does the Masters have to be relevant to what you're teaching, or does any masters make you an 'expert?'
(In her case I know it is, I'm asking for mine and others) |
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tw
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| wigan4 wrote: |
Does the Masters have to be relevant to what you're teaching, or does any masters make you an 'expert?'
(In her case I know it is, I'm asking for mine and others) |
Yeah I forgot you had a Master's too. The impression I got from www.chinatefl.com ads was that anyone with a Master's in any field is entitled to higher rate of pay.
Any posters here with at least a Master's and teaching in China now? It may explain why some FT's get paid a lot more too.
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amandabarrick
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I have found the best success in contacting the schools myself. I have found that it is a lot easier, quicker, and more reliable than going through the recruiter, plus you can negotiate directly with the school as far as salary, benefits, etc...
AB |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: Depends upon the school |
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| tw wrote: |
| Any posters here with at least a Master's and teaching in China now? It may explain why some FT's get paid a lot more too. |
I did my MBA in 1998-99 and came out to China to work for EF English First in 2001. The fact that I had a master's made no shred of difference in terms of pay: in EF, you get paid according to your position within each school and how long you have been there. Hence, someone with a PhD starting out with EF as an "ordinary" teacher would get the same pay as someone with, say, an associate degree (equivalent to an HND in the UK).
In the public-sector primary school I worked at for a year after my two years with EF, my master's was recognised as being eligible for extra salary: I was getting 5,000 RMB per month, whereas my colleagues, some of whom had actually dropped out of college, were receiving up to 4,300 RMB per month.
It is only in my current job that my having a master's degree has paid dividends, if only because a master's is the minimum academic qualification expected of anybody who applies. All of my colleagues have got master's and/or doctorates. We get quite high salaries owing to the fact that students' parents pay a huge amount of money so that their sons and daughters can attend for a year before going to the UK to do their master's degrees.
Our school is directly affiliated with 19 English universities, and so the students can take our courses and do our internal exams as an alternative to IELTS. Hence, high fees for students mean high salaries for teachers, rather like an independent school back home or an international school overseas.
Hence, a master's degree may not necessarily get you any higher pay - it all depends upon which school you end up teaching in. Needless to say, I am very happy to be teaching where I am now. |
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