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lajzar · Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan

You know, I'd go for a trained veterinary surgeon before the bloke who knows a bit about first aid.

dandan · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 183 Location: Hong Kong

Fair enough.

Linda L. · Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 146

PANAMA?

That was so obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PanamaTeacher · Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 278 Location: Panama

si jeunesse savait

double agent · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject: A point is made

Well a point has been made. Yes you can get
a job without a degree. But it is not easy mind you.

It takes ENerGy BaLLs and HuTzzpaH...or sumting like dat.

I would rather a teacher with no degree who has a TEFL
and WANTS to be there. Rather than a noisy teacher
who has no prospects in life and is just doing the job to
do the job to do the job ....

So what, i know it goes on but in does not affect me. What affects
me are the TEFLS who are so full of themselves and Confused

Saying shit like " well i taught in japan...and we did this and we did that
and..." " this is a good school, the administration is right, we should
all work for free on our day off" .."we need to pull together to help these thieves, oops i mean our boss"....

I am TIRED of hearing shit from the mouth of degreed TEFLers who
only question where you studied, not how is your class proceeding etc.

Anyway...power to the people. Razz

struelle · Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 2372 Location: Shanghai

M.K. · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:49 pm Post subject:

Why do degree-holders have such trouble finding good jobs? Because it's like they say, it's not what you know but who you know. My degree did not get me the (horribly soul-less and boring) decent-paying job I've had for the past 3 years. Nope. I knew a guy who knew a guy...
I don't know how the job market is in other parts of the world and outside of the TEFL universe, but I can tell you that here in the US my company has received close to a thousand resumes (CVs to others) to fill the marketing/writing position I'm vacating in 8 days. Probably all the applicants have degrees, are over-qualified for this position, and the majority are likely unemployed right now. Is the professional employment situation this bleak everywhere else in the world, or are we 'Mericans just lucky? Rolling Eyes

Celeste · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:55 am Post subject:

M.K.- It sort of sounds like the 1930s all over again, doesn't it? I am always a bit sad to see that the waiters, barristas, and bartenders at my old haunts back in Canada usually possess at least one degree.

M.K. · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:06 pm Post subject:

It's a sad state of affairs for sure. Even those degree holders who have to tend bar or wait tables are fortunate to have a solid income. I have friends with good, practical degrees who can't even find those types of jobs these days. Yep, it's that bad, at least here in Colorado. Here's hoping things start to turn around really soon...

Wolf · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 1245 Location: Middle Earth

A degree no longer guarantees you a job - at least in North America. I wouldn't have a prayer at a decent job with my trusty English Lit degree and nothing else. Fortunately the job market in China is taking off.... Wink

(and I care about the job I do).

MK, you're counting the days now? Good luck! I hope that you enjoy yourself and learn a lot about teaching, life, the universe and everything.