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nomadder



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Happiest Countries Reply with quote

The 25 most contented societies according to a recent survey of 82 are:

1. Puerto Rico
2. Mexico
3. Denmark
4. Ireland
5. Iceland
6. Switzerland
7. Northern Ireland
8. Colombia
9. Netherlands
10. Canada
11. Austria
12. El Salvador
13. Venezuela
14. Luxembourg
15. United States
16. Australia
17. New Zealand
18. Sweden
19. Nigeria
20. Norway
21. Belgium
22. Finland
23. Saudi Arabia
24. Singapore
25. Britain
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

based on what?
who did the survey?
where can we see more of the results/data?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Happiest Countries Reply with quote

nomadder wrote:
The 25 most contented societies according to a recent survey of 82 are:


How the heck do you measure something as subjective as that..?
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see the link, too, as we have had this on Dave's before and what the OP posted is completely different from the last survey links that I posted a couple of months ago which had Nigeria, Mexico and Venezuela in late 2003 and Venezuela, Nigeria and I think it was Ireland in late 2004!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Happiest Countries Reply with quote

nomadder wrote:
The 25 most contented societies according to a recent survey of 82 are:

1. Puerto Rico
2. Mexico

Huh?

Then why are so many from these places trying to get out of their countries and into the U.S.? That's not a symptom of contentment.

Quote:
7. Northern Ireland
8. Colombia

There's something really wonky with that definition of "contentment" if it applies particularly to countries with long and recent histories of ongoing violence and widespread expressions of concern.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: Happiest Countries Reply with quote

nomadder wrote:
The 25 most contented societies according to a recent survey of 82


There are more than 200 countries in this world, so the survey contained less than half the total. That is not a good sample in my book.

Furthermore, what are the criteria for "contentment"?
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2 over lee



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cents> Australia, Argentina, Laos and yes Colombia.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you measure contentment? I guess if you were in Liverpool the day after the champions league final. Liverpool would be the happiest city in the world.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the link for the October 2003 survey that has Nigeria, Mexico and Venezuela:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3157570.stm

And this is the one from March 2005 that has Venezuela, Nigeria and Ireland in the top three places:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3157570.stm
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nomadder



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The survey was used in a magazine article(no links) but after some research for the sceptics in the audience I found a similar online article.

See:

www.virtualboricua.org/Docs/os18.htm
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web fishing



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomadder's link
Quote:
close-knit families and endless celebrations


That would make me very happy.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the nomadder link:

Quote:
...among the 82 societies in the study by the Stockholm, Sweden-based World Values Survey, which was based on interviews with 120,000 people representing 85 percent of the global population. That put the United States ahead of Britain, Germany and France, Japan, China and Russia, but behind Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela, Ireland, the Netherlands and Canada.

The subjective well-being rankings are one part of the largest social-science study ever. The World Values Survey, an ongoing investigation by a global network of social scientists, measures social, cultural and political change on all six populated continents.


I still want to see the questions. World Values Survey indeed. I would especially like to see how many people from each country were surveyed in order to get that "85% of the global population".

200 countries, someone said. 85% of that is 170.
120,000 people surveyed.
120,000 / 170 = 706 people per country that should have been surveyed if the WVS questioned an equal number per country. Doubtful that they did. Would YOU believe the numbers from 706 people in YOUR country giving an accurate assessment of your country? Not me.

I'd also like to know what were the descriptions of those people (age, time spent abroad, economic status, educational background, etc.).
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nomadder



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: & on that note Reply with quote

According to a Maclean's magazine article the keys to happiness are: "volunteering, spending time with friends(esp. those of the opposite sex), being physically active and keeping a diary. These things are more likely to bring about a felicitous state than education, youth , beauty or money on their own. Marriage and children, incidentally are a roller-coaster ride, temporarily boosting mood only to deflate it as the stresses of family life accumulate."

Another interesting quote: "...happy people live longer, but it's the grumps among us who are doing their bit to perfect the species-if it weren't for the unhappy, one influential evolutionary theory suggests, Homo sapiens could have gone the way of the dodo."
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: & on that note Reply with quote

nomadder wrote:
According to a Maclean's magazine article the keys to happiness are: "volunteering, spending time with friends(esp. those of the opposite sex), being physically active and keeping a diary.


I see a common denominator here...FREE TIME. I think that's what it comes down to in the end. No rat race. Time to do things like volunteer, hang with friends, work out, and write in a diary every day. Yep, sounds like a nice life indeed. Wink
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
nomadder wrote:
The 25 most contented societies according to a recent survey of 82 are:

1. Puerto Rico
2. Mexico

Huh?

Then why are so many from these places trying to get out of their countries and into the U.S.? That's not a symptom of contentment.



Erm, Puerto Rico is still, last I knew, a US territory. I'm not opening debate about whether or not it should be, but...

Justin
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