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31 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797

Look at this for tefl in the uk:

16 GRAND a year for this and I thought ET WAS BAD

Full -time permanent contract of 37.5 hours per week teaching business executives. Teaching responsibilities include teaching classes of no more than four students, private lessons and other pedagogical activities. Teachers are also expected to lead evening activities on average once every two weeks. Socialising with students at meal times and breaks is also expected. Good social skills, enthusiasm and a can-do mentality are pre-requisites.

Qualifications
A minimum of first degree and recognised TEFLi qualification - preferably Trinity or Cambridge. Three years experience an advantage.Experience in teaching adults and Business English preferred.

EU national preferred

Compensation
Salary dependent on qualifications and experience, starting at a minimum of �16,000 p.a. Four weeks annual leave. Excellent prospects for the right candidate within a friendly, supportive and challenging working environment.
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Niste · Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 73

31. I did go back, having been in Istanbul more-or-less continuously for a good few years. 16 grand isn't too bad, really. In FEyou'll be lucky to get a contract at all in some parts of the country, eg, the part I'm in. Saw a recent Skills for Life job looking for part-time hourly employed lecturers, central Bristol (NOT a cheap city even for the UK). Would you like to guess the hourly rate of pay ? Thought not. Well, it was the princely sum of �6.50. Feel free to convert to YTL, adjust to cost of living in Turkey, then complain about English Time to your heart's discontent...

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Does anyone else get the 'when are you coming home?' speech from the parents? Simple fact- we earn more here than we could do back in the UK(dont know about N. America or ashes defeated land) take the cost of living into the equation and well, there is no going back-at least as a tefler.

justme · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul

If I went back to the US, I would be pulling about the same salary, maybe slightly more but with higher rent, etc. Unless I got really lucky and landed a sweet Uni job, I'd probably end up working part-time in 2 diferent places, like a community college and a night school. Part-time because Americans don't like to hire full-timers and have to pay their medical insurance, stuff like that. The hours would be the same as dershane hours here. At least that's what my peers from my MA program are doing, the ones who stayed in the US anyway. Some of them took office-y jobs at places like ETS.

Or, I could work in an overcrowded, underfunded high school with kids who are mostly bad after being streamed in to special ed, since ESL funding has been cut to the point where non-English speakers sent to the pool of degenerates and illiterates (okay, and a few really nice disabled kids).

My parents are sad but they totally get why I wouldn't come back....

31 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797

Job ads for cleaners in London are up to 9 pounds an hour. In a tefl mill in London you will find that the receptionist is paid more than the teachers. At xmas you would have to sign on.

But then this is not Kansas Dorothy.

ash · Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 125 Location: Oz

In Oz: a teacher's full time starting salary is AU35k. But from what I gather, full time ESL in state schools is non-existant, and rare as hens teeth in private education, usually only at schools where they have international boarders, like my last prac where mum and dad were paying 28k per international student per year!

Jobs in IELTS are highly competitive here and probably pay something similar. Sounds like the UK is very similar, but with much higher living costs. It's strange, because there are so many ESL kids in city schools here, and in England from what I'm told. So there is demand, but no-one cares.

basiltherat · Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952

corall · Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 270 Location: istanbul, turkey

my parents usually say "where are you going now?!" much better than the "when are you going to settle down?" speech they like to give me during the infrequent visits home.

yaramaz · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject:

My parents are happy with my current whereabouts, especially since teaching English in western Canada is such a seasonal, low paying profession. I have consistently earned more and had a better standard of living than I could have there in the same job.

31 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797

And if you were back in Canada you wouldn't have such a healthy pound account.

yaramaz · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:

Actually I had a healthy USD account as well as my standard one.

BTW, otuz bir, what's with your preoccupation with my banking vocabulary?

31 · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797

A healthy Canadian, American and Pound account and they say all TEFLers are skint.

ash · Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 125 Location: Oz

My Mum's given up on the 'when are you coming home' speech. She's more interested in where she is visiting me next. I'm the only one of her brood who's left our tiny peninsula.

Yaramaz, it strikes me that you have a canny knack with the old moolah.

yaramaz · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject:

I'm a virgo. I can't help it. According to my accountant back in Canada, I am the only person he knows under 40 with no debt and a private pension. Whoops.

(Can you say Nerd?)

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I do not know ANYONE who went back to the UK and made it in TEFL, and I am 58 and have been working in this field since 1968.