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dharmachicken
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Niigata, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: Overqualified and underemployable? |
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I've been in Osaka for three weeks and am starting to get worried about the bank balance. I have sent my CV off to numerous employers and have had little response. I have 5 years teaching experience, CELTA and an MA in Language Teaching and Learning (Applied Linguistics). I also have a work visa as I have already been teaching in Tokyo. I would really like an ALT position to get some experience with teaching kids or, if necessary, would teach in private schools (eikaiwa). Is it possible that my MA is getting my CV sent to the bin? Should I take it off my CV?
Help! How can I just get a job so I can stop worring about money? |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:18 am Post subject: |
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It's possible. But try to remember that August is the absolute worst time to find a job in Japan. Everyone is on vacation. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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But try to remember that August is the absolute worst time to find a job in Japan. Everyone is on vacation. |
That explains only what happens for one week in the middle of this month, not for the previous 3 weeks (necessarily). Employers take time to make decisions, so perHAPS they are delaying because of Obon holiday.
Other possible reasons for not hearing...
1. Yes, you may be overqualified for what they want. What did they ask for?
2. Your resume is not written well enough or is in some way inadequate. Don't know without seeing it. Same goes for your cover letter.
3. Are you responding to ads or cold calling? The latter doesn't work very well.
4. If you have "already been teaching in Tokyo", that implies you are STILL teaching there. At least, that's what the grammar says. Did you mean that you already taught in Tokyo? When? In what capacity? For how long? Would the jobs you are now applying for be a step down from the previous one? |
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dharmachicken
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Niigata, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: forgot to mention |
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I was also searching the net, newspapers, etc from Tokyo two months prior to arriving here in Osaka.
Guest of Japan,
Thanks, I'm now realising that (wish I'd known before leaving Tokyo and spending money to set up down here) but am still in the predicament of needing work...any ideas??? |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: |
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With ALT positions a bunch will suddenly open up in September when the teachers don't come back after the vacation. You can't be sure if they don't come back because the job was terrible or if they just decided to stay home. Get out on the town and get to know people. |
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dharmachicken
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Niigata, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: grammar faux pas |
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Sorry, yes, I meant that I had taught in Tokyo (typing quickly and not thinking clearly). I arrived in Japan on a three month contract with Westgate and have now finished that contract. I then moved down to Osaka as I have some Japanese friends here and thought it sounded like a nice area.
I have been replying to adverts in Kansai Scene magazine and Kansai Flea Market (Perhaps you know of them??) Most do not specifiy anything apart from 'proper visa required'. They simply state that they want a teacher, whether it's full or part-time, and whether it's teaching kids or adults. Some actually say to e-mail for full details rather than send a CV and I have followed those instructions. I am not cold-calling.
The only other thing is that most positions are for teaching kids. Most of my experience is with adults but, I do have a little experience with kids. I do express clearly that I would like to 'further my experience in teaching children'. This is true, as I am currently deciding whether to go for a Phd or do a school teaching qualification. I don't tell them this, of course. Arrrrghhhh! What now?? |
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dharmachicken
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Niigata, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: how to find ALT positions |
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Guest of Japan,
That's good news. Do you know where I should look for these positions? Most ALT jobs seem to be through dodgy agencies. I went to an interview with one called W5 and they wanted to send me to a different school everyday and wouldn't say exactly how many hours it was, etc., etc.
Perhaps there I a better place to look? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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dharma,
Can't help you with Osaka as I've never been there, but perhaps you can boost your financial reserves temporarily by taking on private lessons. Even if they bail out on you shortly, you will at least have made some money to help tide you over.
Yes, I've heard of those publications. I look at them myself and don't really see much of anything beyond PT work and scuzzy-looking eikaiwas. Keep digging and make those contacts. Use your friends as much as possible. Make flyers. Give out business cards. Don't waste a moment. |
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dharmachicken
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Niigata, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: "PT work and scuzzy-looking eikaiwas" |
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I agree, but I'm getting desperate for money. I'm assuming I can get something better in a few months but now I just need to pay my rent.
I think I will look into the cost of flyers and business cards. Thanks for all the advice.
I also want to make some contacts but I'm not sure how to do that (apart from for privates) in a city where I only know a few people...and they are in other fields. How do you network in a society with no cold calling? Anyone know of any jobs in Osaka for a well-qualified teacher?  |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Looks like you're in trouble. Even if you landed a job tomorrow, you still wouldn't get paid for 6 to 8 weeks depending on when the company's pay day is.
Private students take time to meet and get going. This isn't a realistic option.
If you made it your full time job to find a job, armed with only the Kansai Flea market along with faxing the companies that want a faxed resume, you should be able to land a job fairly quick, after most people get done with their holidays. This is a bad time to search for a job.
To get something better, you'll probably have to wait until Jan, Feb, March to land something at a high school or a university, and that takes an effort too. |
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Revenant Mod Team


Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 1109
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't see whether you've mentioned if you have published any articles refereed or not. Have you? |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Overqualified and underemployable? |
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dharmachicken wrote: |
I've been in Osaka for three weeks and am starting to get worried about the bank balance. I have sent my CV off to numerous employers and have had little response. I have 5 years teaching experience, CELTA and an MA in Language Teaching and Learning (Applied Linguistics). I also have a work visa as I have already been teaching in Tokyo. I would really like an ALT position to get some experience with teaching kids or, if necessary, would teach in private schools (eikaiwa). Is it possible that my MA is getting my CV sent to the bin? Should I take it off my CV?
Help! How can I just get a job so I can stop worring about money? |
Dharma, you want my professional opinion? (I have a Masters too)
A masters is needed if you are applying to a university job. You want to teach kids. Its overkill on your resume. No harm in knowing stuff about teaching kids but it sends the message you are overqualified.
Most schools here simply want a person with a BA whom they can sponsor or has a valid visa. They are not looking for someone to rewrite the curriculum for them. Chances are you will be nore qualified than the foreign manager who interviews you who has a BA and several years experience. Masters degrees intimidate the heck out of such people as they tend to think you know more about ESL than they do.
Take the Masters off, tone down your resume and then put it back on when you have the job sewn up. Dont wear your ESL qualifications like a medal and adapt your skills to your employer. Language schools and dispatch companies dont like prima donnas.
PS I have some links to university jobs- a few are advertising but not in Osaka. getting jobs is also about connections. You may be a little late for the fall semester.
The ones I can tell you are the English links on http://jrecin.jst.go.jp
and http://www.jacet.org
The JALT job list you have to be a JALT member to access the list. |
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Zzonkmiles

Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I have an MA also. It seems to be a mixed bag. An MA might disqualify you from the typical eikaiwa positions, but it can be an asset when looking for "higher tier" positions, such as those at a high school, technical college, corporate class, or university, since that will put you ahead of the majority of other foreigners here. I think you should tailor your resume to fit the kind of job you want. If it's a NOVA-type position, I'd recommend leaving the MA stuff off. An MA may help you get some privates though. Check out www.findateacher.net and set up a profile there and maybe you can get some students there.
One last thing. August is a TERRIBLE month to look for work. You do know that the Obon holiday just started, right? Everyone's on vacation! Sifting through resumes is the last thing on employers' minds right now. |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: Re: how to find ALT positions |
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Guest of Japan,
That's good news. Do you know where I should look for these positions? Most ALT jobs seem to be through dodgy agencies. I went to an interview with one called W5 and they wanted to send me to a different school everyday and wouldn't say exactly how many hours it was, etc., etc.
Perhaps there I a better place to look? |
Sadly, those dodgy companies are going to make up 99% of the jobs. People don't tend to leave great jobs in the middle of the school year. I wish I could give you more specific advice, but I'm a Kanto boy.
Also keep in mind that you won't be seeing an ALT pay check for up to 2 months after you start working. Two months is a really long time in Japan with no income. I did 4 once, and depleted about 700,000 yen. When I finally got my first paycheck, I was down to my last 1000 yen note. When you are in this situation, and the school or company is terrible you feel pretty low. |
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Doglover
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 305 Location: Kansai
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
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I just had dinner last night with a guy who worked at W5 in Nagoya. During the interview he discovered from another applicant that teachers were not paid during vacations and the company was very evasive about saying exactly how much teachers were paid between contracts and "down" periods when there were little or no classes. That will also hit your wallet as well, if the company is not forthcoming about what they actually pay you until it's too late. |
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