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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: Whisky IS the most important drink! (Where, exactly?!) |
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| to what should be the world's most important drink. |
 WHAT? you mean it isn't? |
Did I say it WASN'T    |
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dmb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Chris, but your use of the modal verb 'should' implies that it isnt. I'll own up now, I hardly ever drink whisky... or is that whiskey(i can't even spell it)I dont drink the stuff on a regular basis. Am i really Scottish?chris, I am having a nationality crisis and it is all your fault  |
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Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004
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�one of my grandparents was English�
c. DMB 2005
You are forgiven. You had no choice in the matter.
My first wife was English but luckily I received treatment and the matter was resolved.
�Whisky�is from Scotland and �whiskey� is from Ireland. (This spelling is used by some other countries for their own products, but it�s better not to enquire further.)
I think Cutty Sark is the only whisky which refers to itself as �Scots whisky�.
Cask-strength whisky has to be cut with water. Theoretically, it should be from a mountain burn, preferably that which supplies the distillery.
Of course, if you are really serious about the matter, you�ll have tried �spike� - the whisky before it�s matured. Distillery workers used to receive a gill of the stuff every morning when they arrived at work, one reason why you don�t see that many old men in distillery towns. Sadly, this practice disappeared in the late 1970s - an early example of State-nannying. |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: Nationality crisis? Look in your passport! |
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| Chris, I am having a nationality crisis and it is all your fault |
Let me help your intoxicated brain solve the crisis! You just find a little red book you carry with you at airports. It is called a PASSPORT (repeat after me: "PASS - PORT" - not "pass water", as that has a different meaning  ). In it, you will find a page with a photo of yourself. If you are particularly ugly or else have a grotty photo, you might want to spare yourself the embarrassment of showing it to interested parties (not the kind of parties where one has a wee dram or two, but then again......)
If you look very carefully at the small print (hard to see when you are totally inebriated, I know), you should see your NATIONALITY stated on it. If you consider yourself a Scot, you may (or may not) be surprised to see the words BRITISH CITIZEN as your nationality.
This means that, although you may say that you are a Scot, you actually are, according to the passport, a citizen of a country with a different name on it.
Confused? Don't worry - it really is confusing when you are totally blotto, isn't it?! |
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Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004
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Simply shout the word �Freedom!�
If it is delivered in a manly fashion, deep and melodious, resonating from mountain peak to shell-strewn shore, awakening the deer and startling the slumbering hares, echoing through the glens and rousing the spirits of your ancestors, then you can be sure you are Scottish, no matter what your passport says.
If your voice breaks into a falsetto, followed by an urge to vandalise every bus stop in town, shout �God save the Queen�and think that �Little Britain� is the funniest programme ever seen on TV, then I am afraid you are English, and deserve everything you get. |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Simply shout the word �Freedom!�
If it is delivered in a manly fashion, deep and melodious, resonating from mountain peak to shell-strewn shore, awakening the deer and startling the slumbering hares, echoing through the glens and rousing the spirits of your ancestors, then you can be sure you are Scottish, no matter what your passport says. |
Location is everything. Shouting "Freedom" while wearing a kilt in the middle of the Frog and Toad in Balham is unlikely to get you much more than a pitying glance, if you're lucky. Unfortunately, your "deep and melodious" voice, though prized in the wild and woolly Highlands, may not bring you much fortune anywhere south of the Borders. In fact, you'd better keep your William Wallace impersonations / pretensions safely out of "little England" if you want to keep your manliness intact... |
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Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004
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Och aye the noo, much better to be a brave noble Englishman stumbling through the streets of most of the capital cities of Eastern Europe with your mates on a stag outing, shirts drenched in vomit, bellowing �Ingerland, Ingerland!�
�Watcha looking at, tosser? Oim INGLISH! Give us chips!�
If you lot don�t start behaving yourselves, we�ll withdraw all our politicians, and where will you be then? |
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Justin Trullinger
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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While it is amusing, I didn't add anything to this thread for a while, because I wasn't sure what collocation meant. To you guys, that is. Gone way around the bend on this one...
But you've reminded me of one you see a lot around here that REALLY confuses me. You see, printed on bottles,
Finest Blended Scotch Whiskey
Other comments on bevvy collocations...
Bacardi's Finest (Who cares? it still sucks...)
The Best Tasting Beer in America! (where's the competition)
It doesn't get any better than this! (no comment) |
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EnglishBrian
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 189
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Nationality crisis? Look in your passport! |
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| Chris_Crossley wrote: |
If you look very carefully at the small print... [of your passport]... you should see your NATIONALITY stated on it. If you consider yourself a Scot, you may (or may not) be surprised to see the words BRITISH CITIZEN as your nationality.
This means that, although you may say that you are a Scot, you actually are, according to the passport, a citizen of a country with a different name on it.
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Funny how for us Brits 'nationality' and 'citizenship' are the same. It isn't so in many countries. The question from the beginning of Headway (Elementary or Beginner, not sure which) "What's your nationality?" causes chaos in a Lithuanian classroom.
Passports here - those held but Lithuanian citizens - have a section on them for 'nationality' - which can be anything. For instance if I ever got one of these passports, it could have 'English' in that section. I think it goes back to Soviet Union style passports. When my wife was born her parents had to choose which nationality she was, because one was Belarussian and one Lithuanian. They went for 'Belarussian'.
So I'm sending a visa application for her now, together with an official translation of our marriage certificate from the Lituanian embassy which says in big letters "Nationality Belarussian". |
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