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SA_Massive
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 26 Location: Aust
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: Many ALT positions starting in 2 weeks time!? |
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I live in Kansai and pretty happy working in the Eikaiwa field. However, at some stage I would like to change jobs and become and Elementary School ALT, mainly because of daytime working hours, possibly more challenge, freedom and responsibility.
I've noticed that there has been a huge number of job postings by W5 and Interac recently. The positions start in September 2 and run until around Febuary- March.
Just W5 alone , must have atleast 30 positions they are currently trying to fill.
Does this strike anyone else as strange? On one hand it seems like a great opportunity to get an ALT position, but on the other hand, I find it unusual that they are hiring at such late notice - 2 weeks to interview, train and do adminisatration stuff. It sounds a bit unorganised to me.
Anyway, I would just like to ask someones advice whether they think these companies can be trusted (If they won so many ALT contracts at such notice, they might lose them at short notice too?)
I would certainly prefer an ALT job, but maybe waiting until the main hiring season (When I will also have a fresh visa) and more employment options is a good idea, rather than make a rash decision which I may regret.
Also I would rather give my employer much more than 1-2 weeks notice.
There must be a few of you who have been in the same position?
If anyone has any thoughts or advice, Thank you!
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rai
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 119 Location: Osaka
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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One of the biggest headaches working for dispatch companies is that they have to bid for contracts. Often the city doesn't decide on which company to go with until distressingly close to the start of the contract. Hence the short notice and hiring window. This is indeed one of the hiring windows for ALT's; September is the start of nigaki, or the second tri-mester in the public schools. The biggest hiring window is before the school year starts in April. Unfortunately, the better jobs (like mine, I work directly for a school board) start hiring much earlier, sometimes in January or February.
Dispatch companies can be a pain, but it gets you experience in the public schools. I started off with a dispatch company 4 years ago, and now I have a great job (well, great except for the first tri-mester when I was at a bad school). Oh, and training? There usually isn't much of that It sounds like these jobs run through the second and third trimesters, which would take you up until next school year, at which time you will have some experience teaching in the public schools. Sounds good to me...
Um, either that or they lost a LOT of teachers after the first tri-mester. Don't know the companies very well. I'd still use them for the resume building; hell it's only Sept-Mar, right? |
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Revenant Mod Team


Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 1109
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| w5 has been discussed on here and other sites like GPot. They have an extremely high hire turnover rate. |
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wangtesol
Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 280
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: ALT outsourcing business is illegal and disorganized |
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Yes, W5 and other ALT outsourcing companies are very disorganized since boards of education decide which company will be chosen at the last moment. Recently, there has been a trend to get contracts for ALTs to start in April, so ALT contracts that have started in September have been terminated with little notice in February or March so the teacher is left high and dry.
In one case, RCS lost 10 contracts in Honjo, Saitama to Shane language school in April 2004. That meant that 10 RCS teachers who had worked at their jobs for 8 months suddenly lost their jobs since RCS had lost the bids for the contracts to Shane. It is very possible that you could be facing a similar situation.
Underlying all this disorganization is the fact that most ALT positions are illegal. That is, the outsourcing company signs an illegal gyomu itaku contract with the board of education in the attempts to avoid the regulations of Dispatch Law (haken kaisha ho). The Japanese Ministry of Education issued a notice in February 2005 to all prefectural boards of education to have this practice stopped since it also violates Education Law section 28 where it states that the principal must be in charge of all staff including the ALT. However, in the gyomu itaku practice, the company is in charge of you, not the principal.
You can read more and see how the migrant worker unions are fighting this illegal system at www.nambufwc.org. There is also a "sticky" in this forum on this very subject.
I would hold off until April if you can or join a union, know your rights and fight them. ALT companies are very vulnerable to union fights. I do not know of one ALT case that has been lost in the last year. Don't join the union at the last moment though, since often there is a 3 month backlog on cases. |
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6810

Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| SA - The high number of positions is not unusual. I think summer generally sees people with more time up their sleeves to re-evaluate their positions and jump ship, move on or do something else. |
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SA_Massive
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 26 Location: Aust
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your advice.
I guess 'the grass is always greener'' but I've decided to stick with Eikaiwa for a while,
I will keep my eyes open during the main hiring season.
Until then, its 'listen and repeat: a homemaker, a bank clerk .....' |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| SA_Massive wrote: |
Thanks for your advice.
I guess 'the grass is always greener'' but I've decided to stick with Eikaiwa for a while,
I will keep my eyes open during the main hiring season.
Until then, its 'listen and repeat: a homemaker, a bank clerk .....' |
The grass is a dark shade of brown if you decide to go with a dispatch company like I have described in the stickies. A definite step backwards, IMO. |
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Sage

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 144 Location: Iwate no inaka!
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah well I await information on how to get an ALT job if you don't speek fluid Japanese, know someone who knows someone, or have the time to travel around Japan going from BoE to BoE to look for work directly.
Otherwise it looks like the only way to work in Japan and not be a ekaiwa robot slave is to go dispatch like Interac or the like. Yeah there might be a bunch of downsides with dispatch but can anyone tell me there aren't a bunch of downsides to ekaiwa work?
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| can anyone tell me there aren't a bunch of downsides to ekaiwa work? |
It all depends on the eikaiwa, of course, and on your perspective, experience, and goals. Eikaiwas have advantages and disadvantages.
Some advantages:
1. Some hire from abroad, thus you don't have to burn money coming here and looking for work.
2. Most provide housing, so you don't have to deal with the hassles of finding it and furnishing it.
3. Some provide a margin of training.
4. Some have their own format for teaching, so you don't have to create lessons.
5. Class sizes are small.
6. They set up your bank account for you, and most pay on time through automatic deposit.
Some disadvantages:
1. Even though some hire from abroad, you still have to pay expenses to attend them (sometimes traveling a long distance and getting lodging for 3 days). And, you also have to deal with their recruiting schedules.
2. Housing hassles still exist in some cases. NOVA puts people in with other teachers, so you would be living with strangers, and they inflate the rent. AEON requires that you pay rent on their apartments even if you get one of your own.
3. Training is marginal at best, and it is only good for their format.
4. Sometimes you have to teach many lessons a day ( 6 to with hardly a break between th | | |