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argonfly707
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 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:13 am Post subject: I can work in Japan. Yeah!!! |
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Well I just finished my first course for my TESL certificate and I now realize that I can work in Japan on a working holiday Visa for a year, as I am under 30 years of age. I have narrowed where I would like to work to first Japan and then if that fails, Taiwan. I just have a few questions about Japan for anyone willing a second of their time.
1) Does Japan have any gyms to workout at?
2) Is tennis big in Japan?
3) Are there many jobs in Japan right now for people with only a College Diploma and not a degree?
Thanks for your time in advance
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: Re: I can work in Japan. Yeah!!! |
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| argonfly707 wrote: |
1) Does Japan have any gyms to workout at?
2) Is tennis big in Japan?
3) Are there many jobs in Japan right now for people with only a College Diploma and not a degree?
Thanks for your time in advance
Argonfly |
1. There are gyms in all the major cities and some even even English speaking or native speaker trainers. In Japan you pay a sign-up fee, a monthly charge and you pay at the counter when you use the facilities.
http://www.tipness.co.jp
2. Japan has several world class players including some who have played at Wimbledon. Most clubs are private and you have to pay a membership to join. Some tennis stars are also 'celebrities' on television.
3. Most full time jobs here require a degree if you want to get a work visa. Some hire on a WHV but they make up the minority. Check the Working Holiday Makers association website for job links. There are not many good paying jobs overall, even for people with degrees.
You can only apply for those jobs that take people with WHV. If you have one year at university you can work PT at NOVA on a WHV. |
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argonfly707
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| I appreciate your reply. I think I will try and still find work in Japan even if it does not sound that it will work out with a WHV. Hopefully something will come up. |
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Ovid
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| 1) While looking into this topic a few months ago, I was recommened Gold's Gym. They have several locations, prices seem reasonable, and (from the photos) look very nice. http://www.goldsgym.jp/golds/system_e.html |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| argonfly707 wrote: |
| I appreciate your reply. I think I will try and still find work in Japan even if it does not sound that it will work out with a WHV. Hopefully something will come up. |
Argon, this has come up recently on some posts. Some things to keep in mind when hunting on a WHV
WHV is not a work visa. it is a visa that allows holiday makers to travel in japan and work part time to meet their expenses. Youc an work part time or fulll time on this visa but its not the same as a sponsored work visa. You can not get jobs that you do not qualify for and for which you do not have the proper visa. Stosskraft is the only person I know of who came here with no degree and a working holiday visa, he will be able to tell you better than i can how hard it is to find work.
You can work here, just simply dont expect you can just walk off the plane straight into a paying job. there is a lot of competition for jobs from degreed qualified people, many current jobs are part time and dont pay that well. Many teaching jobs require long commutes and the working conditions are not that good and violate several labor laws. As long as you are not fussy are persistent you will find something.
My advice is to come with enough money to last you at least 2 months, because thats how long it will be before you see a paycheck and you syill have to eat and job hunt, attend interviews etc.
Something will come up, but it wont fall into your lap, you will have to go out and look for it. Dont expect employers here to come chasing after you, unless they smell a dupe. Be proactive, know what you are looking for and do your homework. If in doubt about a contract, ask someone for a second opinion. chances are an employer will be interested in you as either
1. you are desperate for a paycheck
2. you are cheap labor and will work for peanuts. It wont be because of your good looks.
You will need a mobile phone and a current address if you look for work here. You can easily find cheap accomodation in a gaijin hostel and its possible to buy prepaid phones so you can contact employers. |
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argonfly707
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your advice Paulh. I am not to sure what to do know. I have been told that I can get a ARC (Which I am asuming is a work visa) in Taiwan with a Diploma, and I would really like to get a job before I leave because this will be the first time traveling. I would like to work in Japan but it seems now that this may not be a feasible oppurtunity. I will reasearch more.
Thanks again,
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| argonfly707 wrote: |
Thanks for your advice Paulh. I am not to sure what to do know. I have been told that I can get a ARC (Which I am asuming is a work visa) in Taiwan with a Diploma, and I would really like to get a job before I leave because this will be the first time traveling. I would like to work in Japan but it seems now that this may not be a feasible oppurtunity. I will reasearch more.
Thanks again,
Argon |
You need a minimum of a Bachelors degree to get a visa to work in Taiwan, a diploma is not sufficient. With no degree you can work on a WHV in Japan and Korea.. China you call also work without a degree.
Working in Taiwan
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=28758
b) Holding at least a Bachelors degree from an accredited tertiary instiution or a diploma plus TESOL certification. You will need the original diploma certificates, copies and transcripts are not acceptable. |
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argonfly707
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Many sites have told me that you can work in Taiwan legally and get a ARC with a Diploma and a TESL certificate which is what I will have. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| argonfly707 wrote: |
| Many sites have told me that you can work in Taiwan legally and get a ARC with a Diploma and a TESL certificate which is what I will have. |
This is the japan forum. Go over to the Taiwan Forum and send a PM to Clark Griswald. he is a long term resident and is the most knowledgeable person there about working in Taiwan
Who are you going to believe, a website or someone who now lives there?
I just checked an ARC its an Alien Resident Certificate. Its like a gaijin card in japan. It is not a work visa. you still need to qualify for a work visa before you can live there.
ARC simply says you are a resident foreigner in Taiwan, its not a visa. |
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Frankie Knuckles
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Hello Argon,
I have worked in Japan and also in Taiwan. In Japan I worked part-time on a working holiday visa and in Taiwan I worked full-time because by that time I had finished a bachelors degree. If you are concerned about finding work after arriving in Japan you should apply with NOVA and secure a job before you leave. Some people have bad things to say about NOVA but it really depends on the particular branch you are sent to. I had great students at NOVA and supportive co-workers which certainly made a big difference. It is also possible but not necessarily legal, to pick up other cash-paid casual teaching jobs while working part-time at NOVA. I found a couple of very well paid cash jobs while I was working in Osaka. I can't really comment on the current job market in Japan as I was there about 5 years ago.
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ava77
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: work visa |
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| You can get a work visa in Japan witha college diploma. It is pretty easy, come on the working holiday and the company that hires you will change it to a work visa but be sure to bring a copy of your orginal diploma. |
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stillnosheep
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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The company that hires you (on a WHV) can only get that changed to a full teaching work visa if you have a full (BA, BSc, BEd or better) degree or years of teaching experience.
No degree. No work visa. That's the rules.
Of course there is always the odd person who slips through due to immigration making a mistake but to encourage non-degree holders to come across to Japan in the mistaken belief that they will be able to change a WHV to a full work visa once in the country is irresponsible, and wrong, and inacurate, and naughty, and other such non-positive words. |
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argonfly707
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well thanks for all your input guys. I think I will just try Taiwan now as it seems securing a work visa for me is impossible or very near. Maybe I will get my degree later and come back to Japan.
Thanks Again,
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ronin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Hey Argonfly707 don't believe these guys that have no experience with a WHV!!! You can teach with out a degree in Japan no problem! A WHV Diploma and a teaching cert will get you a decent job and Guess what the WHV office in Tokyo, Osaka or Fukuoka will help you find a teaching job because they got lots of job postings for you to find work and they will also give you a letter of recommendation that you bring to the interview with you. Go to this website to find out more info! I've known guys with only high school diplomas get teaching jobs on a WHV and it is perfectly legal with a WHV!
http://www.jawhm.or.jp/ |
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stillnosheep
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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As paulh made very clear there is no problem getting a WHV in Japan without having a degree. A WHV neither covers you for full-time work nor can it be extended.
The question was whether you can get sponsered for a full, estendable non WHV teching visa after entering Japan on a WHV.
The answer is 'Yes - but only if you have a full four-yr (or three yr in the case of England BA/BSc/B.Ed (or equivalent) degree).
Which is what I said. No degree: No full-time teaching work visa. |
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