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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard some time ago that Brits in particular were being targetted out there. Any truth to that?

As for everything else...needing a TOEFL exam in particular...that almost sounds like a shakedown (for money) and not a takedown. You know how Mexico works.
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PlayadelSoul



Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: Playa del Carmen

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
I heard some time ago that Brits in particular were being targetted out there. Any truth to that?

As for everything else...needing a TOEFL exam in particular...that almost sounds like a shakedown (for money) and not a takedown. You know how Mexico works.


Actually, when I first came to Mexico, you didn't need squat to teach.

Immigration shows no bias in regards to who it throws out of the country. I have seen Argentinians, Spaniards, Cubans, Brits, Yanks and Canadians all shown the door. They seem to be redoing all paperwork, even on a simple renewal. I thank God I have my FM2, a Mexican wife and two kids. Otherwise, they might be giving me a ride to the airport.

If anything, this is an anti-shakedown. They are following the law to the letter, and making no exceptions. I think it is in response to some shady past delegados who were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If anything, this is an anti-shakedown. They are following the law to the letter, and making no exceptions. I think it is in response to some shady past delegados who were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.


Changing of the guard. That cookie jar will be nicely covered in sticky fingerprints again soon, rest assured.
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aisha



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PlayadelSoul wrote:
At one point, we needed to prove that a teacher candidate had taken a TOEFL exam. Then, we were asked to provide translated CELTA or TESOL certificates. Now, they ask for translated and apostiled certification, which if you don't have, may take up to a month.


I just have a couple of questions because I would like to go to that area and teach and so I probably would be dealing with that immigration office.

If a teacher was a native speaker of english, did he/she still need a TOEFL exam?

If I get my TESOL certificate in Mexico, will it still need to be translated and apostiled?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak for al immigration offices, but it's not been my experience. Our certificate is issued in English, with a Mexican address, and it has never needed translating, nor an apostille.
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aisha wrote:


I just have a couple of questions because I would like to go to that area and teach and so I probably would be dealing with that immigration office.

If a teacher was a native speaker of english, did he/she still need a TOEFL exam?

If I get my TESOL certificate in Mexico, will it still need to be translated and apostiled?


I would suggest that you get everything apostiled (birth certificate, certificates, etc.).

I met with the head of immigration the other day, and he informed me that even English language schools need to comply with the 1 for 10, foreigner/Mexican, regulation. I asked him if he wanted me to close the doors now or wait until we go completely belly up. I don't agree that native speakers are the best teachers, especially since a lot of them run home with their tails between their legs. That being said, the students want native speakers, and if we don't have some on staff, we will lose business.

Times are tough right now. However, as Guy said, the tide will turn again. We just have to wait it out. PM me for more info, if you want.
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aisha



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I hope the tide turns before july. I'm pretty determined though and I definitely won't be the one running away. I'm in mexico to stay for a long time. I'm trying to stay positive but the possibilities are starting to sound pretty bleak! Sad
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