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satchel



Joined: 16 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:54 pm    Post subject: Am I too old? Reply with quote

Hi,

I am 30 years old and would very much like to go to Japan to teach for a year. I have taught ESL in the states for 2 years, and would like to take a break from America.

I don't know what the age group of most teachers over there is. I wanted to do this when I was twenty, but didn't. Am I too late?
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CinD



Joined: 14 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes I can see the grey hair from here Wink I'm under 30 but my friend who is 34 just got accepted and will be heading over so I think you're going to be just fine! GL!
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 27 and at the younger end of the age spectrum in my school. You'll be fine!
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski who posts on this board got his first teaching job in Japan at 41.

I've just turned 40 and teach at a university. NOVA employs teachers who in their 40's and 50's. As long as you can keep up with a 6-7 lesson a day teaching schedule (27 hours a week) and have a degree you should have no problem getting a job here.
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satchel



Joined: 16 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your quick comments. I live in Los Angeles now, and am just wondering what is out there. Everyone I spoke with who has done this says its wonderful. I love to teach and want to travel, so it seems like the perfect fit.

Does anyone know of any recruiting agencies in Los Angeles?
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locagrl814



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe NOVA schedules recruiting sessions in different states. Check out www.teachinjapan.com.
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olorin



Joined: 24 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 30 yrs. old and just took a position with Nova. Their closest office is in San Francisco. You may also want to check out Aeon. They have an office in L.A.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

satchel wrote:
Thanks for your quick comments. I live in Los Angeles now, and am just wondering what is out there. Everyone I spoke with who has done this says its wonderful. I love to teach and want to travel, so it seems like the perfect fit.

Does anyone know of any recruiting agencies in Los Angeles?


If you go with NOVA you will be working forty hours a week and have actual teaching time with students about 27 hours a week. You will be given 10 paid holidays off a year after you have been there 6 months. You probably wont get much time to see the country once you get here and start working.

A word of warning: if you tell them that you are more interested in traveling and learning the language and experiencing the culture etc and seeing your job just as a means of funding your travels they may not look favorably on it- you are being paid to do a particular job and teach their students English so an interest in teaching and in EFL is probably advisable.

P.S. NOVA recruits and interviews its own teachers in the U.S. It is not an independent agency but a private language school that does its own hiring overseas.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Thanks for your quick comments. I live in Los Angeles now, and am just wondering what is out there. Everyone I spoke with who has done this says its wonderful. I love to teach and want to travel, so it seems like the perfect fit.


What are you looking to teach? High school? Elementary school? Language conversation school? Business classes? University classes?

Very few places accept applications from abroad. The big 4 language schools do (NOVA, GEOS, AEON, ECC), as does the JET program. Look at their home pages for details on the office around the world where they interview.

www.jetprogramme.org
www.geoscareers.com
www.aeonet.com
www.teachinjapan.com
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Brooks



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in Japan the older you are the more respect you are given. As long as you are genki, age doesn`t matter. And if you have a M.A. or Ph.d., even better.
Age can be an issue when it comes to money. Where I work, our salaries are based on age, experience, and educational background.
So a person in his 50s could get the same pay as two people in their 20s.
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nakanoalien2



Joined: 04 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the big eikaiwa -Nova, Aeon, Geos - I would think late 20s might be average, with lots of teachers in their 30s.

In my school there were about 15 people. I was 28 at the time and right about in the middle of the pack.

In my apartment I had 2 roommates, 1 older (3Cool and one younger (23).
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satchel



Joined: 16 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds cool. I teach a mid level ESL class in Los Angeles now with a mix of Japaneese, Korean, Mongolian, Turkish, Hungarian and Chinese students. I think very highly of them for going to another country and leaving behind what they know.

The way I figure it, you'd have to work those hours in the states anyhow.

Also, i do things like take the scipt for the MAtrix and watch the movie at the same time with them. Would I be able to do thing slike that with my class?

Being in America is pretty insane right now. I wonder how the world is looking at us. Funny, when my students get here, they are shocked to find out that it's not like they see on TV. I guess that's every culture though.

Anyhow, I'm on my search now. You all have been very helpful.

Peace.

Christopher
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

satchel wrote:

Also, i do things like take the scipt for the MAtrix and watch the movie at the same time with them. Would I be able to do thing slike that with my class?



Chris

sitting the students in front of a video for the duration of a 60 minute lesson is the sign of a very incompetent or lazy teacher who has no idea how to use video in a lesson.

Most students will not be able to handle the vocabulary grammar or slang or use the language in context. they hear F_____ in a movie and they think everyone speaks like that or they will not understand things like irony, jokes, use of expeletives etc.. When I show a movie in class I will probably not show more than 5 or 10 minutes as that is all students can handle attention wise and you will probably have at least a page or 2 or dialogue to get through.

You can use movies etc (if you have a VCR on hand that is) but usually in small chunks, I will usually spend 10-15 minutes on vocabulary building and slang expressions. I would think that the average movie without subtitles would be WAYYYY over their head- most students can not even tell you the time in English, let alone understand a Hollywood movie.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

satchel wrote:

Being in America is pretty insane right now. I wonder how the world is looking at us. Funny, when my students get here, they are shocked to find out that it's not like they see on TV. I guess that's every culture though.



Speaking from a Kiw perspective I think you have a duplicitious, deceitful laughing stock of a president and Watergate and Richard Nixon is going to have nothing in this guy when the Congress is done with him. You have the president lying to Congress and the American people while american soldiers come home in body bags as a result of his little adventures abroad.
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locagrl814



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, the situation here in the US is one of the reasons why I took the job in Japan. France is probably laughing at us even more right now. I was there a few months ago and boy did I think they were gonna attack us or what! If Bush wins the elections again next year, I'm seriously gonna flip out!
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