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Should we include this on a CV to China?
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greenwillow



Joined: 18 Jul 2003
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Location: Georgia, USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:33 pm    Post subject: Should we include this on a CV to China? Reply with quote

My husband had A LOT of cross-cultural experience when in law enforcement for 9 yrs. However, would this be undesirable on a CV for a job in China? Don't want anyone hesitant to hire him because of some Chinese perception of American police (at least, if it's a BAD perception!) Would it be better to leave it off, even though some of the experience is definitely applicable?
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MartinK



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:52 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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Minhang Oz



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one who shortlists CV's for further consideration by my employer, I'd suggest you stick to what is directly applicable to the job you're applying for. In your case this is probably going to be your English teaching [especially ESL/EFL] qualifications and experience. All else is peripheral and distracting. A "padded" resume makes me wonder why the writer is making such an effort to impress. A good and highly relevant reference is useful.

As for a law enforcement background, useful as it may be, I'd keep it to myself. American cops are not regarded as models of racial tolerance anywhere in the world. They're probably no better or worse than police anywhere else, but that's not the perception. Many Chinese know of Rodney King.
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greenwillow



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:18 am    Post subject: That Rodney King perception is what I am afraid of..... Reply with quote

That Rodney King perception is what I am afraid of.....although my husband is not that way at all. My husband had some very valuable training & and experience in a type of ambassadorial role to several cultural groups in our town and actually had some training as a result that would be very relevant on his cv. We may just leave it off.
Perhaps we could at least threaten our students with it once he's employed and ensure good behavior?? Laughing
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aaronschwartz



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps we could at least threaten our students with it once he's employed and ensure good behavior??


What teacher training program did you attend again?

You are joking, right?

A family of 4 coming to China to teach English on 3,000 rmb per month sounds like only one is a teacher so where does the "our students" come into the picture? That would be at least 6,000 rmb per month, right?

The more you post the more I question?
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aaronschwartz



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might consider including something about teaching experience!!!!

Or, what about teacher training?? Or, what about ESL training? Got anything like that laying around you could throw in?

Since in another post you advocate threatening and intimidating as a teaching tool, you may also wish to include a little educational background.

Just a thought.
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Wolf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaronschwartz wrote:
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Perhaps we could at least threaten our students with it once he's employed and ensure good behavior?? Laughing


What teacher training program did you attend again?

You are joking, right?


Well, there is that little laughy icon at the end of her post....
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greenwillow



Joined: 18 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I may be a newbie, but I *did* understand that this - Laughing - indicates a joke!
As for college and TEFL degrees/certificates, we do not wonder whether to place that on our CV so therefore that is not the question. I refuse to submit our credentials for your approval. I have seen the endless arguments on this forum regarding credentials and refuse to throw my hat in the ring for either "side". It is a waste of time and energy, and completely nonproductive. I am sorry you are so quick to assume the worst.
As for "our" students, I have ALWAYS considered my husband's students to be mine also. It is not unusual for us to have students over for family events. If we go to China, we fully intend to have students in our home for meals, English corner, outings, etc.
As for relevant experience on the CV, I consider our life experience MUCH more helpful than our college for teaching, although the TEFL is practical. My husband's on-the-job experience was immensely relevant, thus the question at hand.
Since I TEACH my own children at home now, we hope to be able to get by in China with only one of us working a full-time job. If necessary, I can also take a position but we hope to avoid this since homeschool is quite a full-time job in itself.
Thank you so much to all of you who have helped me on this topic!
I am going now to change my quote in my profile.........it has been taken much too seriously Smile
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beerdang



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a ESL teacher. But I used to be a student.
How about love and passion being part of your qualifications?

I don't think everyone here has it.
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aaronschwartz



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