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[bearcanada]

Henry, I found this for you.

Flamebait is a message posted to an Internet discussion group with the intent of provoking an angry response. There are various motives for this perplexing behavior, the desire for attention and also possibly revenge being two of the most common. The fact that baiting is usually directed at an expert, self-appointed or otherwise, rather than at the issues involved, suggests the baiter was weaned from the nipple too early. This gave rise to a combination of repressed maternal resentment and an urgent but reckless need for attention, thereby stunting the emotional growth of the baiter and leading to this peurile behaviour in later life.
cf. Cambridge Journal of Psychiatry, Jul. 2005, pp. 116 ff.




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[bearcanada]

Henry, I just had the most extraordinary experience. I accidentally clicked myself into another thread and by some inadvertency stumbled onto something that made me blink. It was like drawing aside the curtains and discovering a thing not meant to be known.

Do you know what I found? One of your posts, in which you were asking if someone could please give you a synonym for 'because'. You hadn't been able to find one by yourself and you needed some help. A synonym for 'because', Henry?

As I said, I blinked. The same Henry who so contemptuously censured the opinions and contributions of others, the Henry who was competent to judge with scorn the education and qualifications of persons unknown, the Henry who professionally informed us that other fora were of a linguistic calibre far superior to ours, the same Henry who enjoys flamebaiting, was on another thread asking for help for a word that meant 'because'.

Well, Henry. Here you go:
since
for
as
so that
seeing that
by cause of
as a result of
due to the fact that
for the reason that
from the fact that
on the basis of
taking into account
on this account that
in order that
inasmuch as

If you'll accept a suggestion from another non-professional, maybe you'd care to find a good dictionary and grammar book and boldly go where you've never gone before.

Absquatulate yourself.



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[klaus]

I have some comments for Mr Cowell, with respect.

[Henry_Cowell]

Mr "klaus":

The egregious Canadian Bear was attempting to justify his ungrammatical analysis by saying he had written TWO independent clauses. I thus told him that he had written only ONE, which he of course had. You can talk about all the embeddings you want.

This is the same Canadian Bear who doesn't seem to apply the "norms" of subject-verb agreement on his own Web site.

QED

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At long last has the estimable Bernard/Ludwig/ZeroHero/Transvaal found his newest incarnation -- neurosis and sociopathy intact, as always? Is his life so incredibly pathetic that he can't stay away from the ESL Cafe?

[Henry_Cowell]

[klaus]

[Henry_Cowell]

Mr "klaus",

Absolutely hysterical. You--who have nothing but contempt for Chinese students and education--should be spending time finishing your dissertation and your "book" rather than learning the basics of syntax here on Dave's. Your serious neuroses, however, will probably continue to prevent you from finishing either. And from keeping a job!

Should I be honoured that you have devoted your first two posts on Dave's to me? No. It's rather creepy to be followed around by all your incarnations. It seems that I've touched a very SERIOUS nerve in that pathetic brain of yours to keep you coming back for more abuse and failure. But I'll do my best.

[bearcanada]

Henry, you're out of control. This is a grammar thread, not an encounter group for disordered intellects and emotionally disturbed children. Your response to every grammar post is a vitriolic personal attack where you increasingly sound like you're foaming at the mouth. I had a dog like that once, but I forgave him because he had rabies. Still shot him, though. Just from interest, do you bay at the moon?

You said, "It seems that I've touched a very SERIOUS nerve in that pathetic brain of yours to keep you coming back for more abuse and failure. But I'll do my best." Well, my goodness me. Everyone else on this thread is perfectly calm. You seem to be the one with the inflamed nerves. (I think you meant to say that you seriously touched a nerve, instead of 'touched a serious nerve' and I doubt you meant 'seriously' (as opposed to playfully?), but that's a normal manifestation of the mental and emotional disorders you're apparently experiencing. Perhaps it'll pass.)

What is it about knowledgeable people that frightens you into such madness? Some people are smarter than others, Henry; some have had more education, better training, more generous mothers, .... If you haven't been similarly blessed, you have to live with that. It occurs to me that your self-comparison to the high levels of education and intelligence (and self-restraint) exhibited by the others on this thread is perhaps creating the intense and exhausting emotional burden you must feel, thereby contributing to your instability. As a helpful thought, perhaps you might find relief in a place more at your level, for e.g., the "Wal-Mart Greeters Grammar Guide".

I'll partially reprint for you my earlier post on flamebaiting from the Cambridge Journal of Psychiatry:
..... suggests the baiter was weaned from the nipple too early. This gave rise to a combination of repressed maternal resentment and an urgent but reckless need for attention, thereby stunting the emotional growth of the baiter and leading to this peurile behaviour in later life.
cf. Cambridge Journal of Psychiatry, Jul. 2005, pp. 116 ff.

I think I understand modest maternal resentment from denial of mammary consolation, but you sound like you want to chop her with an ax. Henry, these vicious personal attacks are neither prompted nor justified by the real or imagined faults of others. They instead arise from a personality with serious emotional disturbances. You need professional help, Henry, and you won't find it here. If you tell us your location I'll send you the address of a pharmacy that stocks Valium, but that's the best I can do.

By the way, you were correct when you suggested I misquoted you. You didn't ask for a synonym for 'because' but for 'so that'. Here is your post: "Can somebody give me a synonym for "so that"? I want a synonym that actually conveys the same meaning. "because" and "'cause" do NOT carry the same meaning." They do carry the same meaning, Henry. You just have to move all the little words around until they make sense.

p.s. Are you familiar with the expression, "the pot calling the kettle black"? I found what appears to be a perfect example: "At long last has the estimable (Henry?) found his newest incarnation -- neurosis and sociopathy intact, as always? Is his life so incredibly pathetic that he can't stay away from the ESL Cafe?"

Let's get back to grammar, folks. We were having a good time on the prescriptive/descriptive train before we were derailed by the (sour) grapes of wrath.

[Henry_Cowell]

Oh, dear. My, my, my. The Golden Bear gets himself in deeper and deeper, proving that he has even poorer reading comprehension skills than I suspected. And he himself always demands so much precision and "correctness" from others.

[bearcanada]

Henry, if your Sesame Street Word Book tells you that, then sure, you just go right ahead and do it.

[bearcanada]

Sorry, Henry. I missed part of your post. You asked: "May I see a sentence in which "because" and "so that" can be substituted for each other (in the same position) without changing the meaning?"

Since you asked so nicely, of course you may. You're such a dear when you're taking your Valium. In the following sentences the meanings are the same:
1) Bfltspiokl gleek rogectu so that mulivan prrstsu.
2) yellinis grrklput bingwen because pntinbeu.

My pleasure.


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[Henry_Cowell]

Once again on this thread, our gentle but severely impaired bear is reduced to a quivering pile of gibberish. I see that my work is done.

Ciao, bello!

[bearcanada]

Egregio signore;

Cosa vuole, stolto? Il tuo messaggio e solamente sciocchezza. Che vergona, veramente. Forse sara meglio per te absquatulare a un altro posto. Capisce?


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[Midlothian Mapleheart]

Edited to remove offensive content.

Middy

[Mr. Kalgukshi]

Locked.

Perhaps, I should write that I have just locked the thread.

On the other hand, I could write that I just locked it.

Another possibility is it could be written that the thread has now been locked.

Were it to be unlocked in the future, please refrain from personal attacks and insults.

Otherwise, the thread will have to moved to a place where grammar does not cause such passion.