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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Grammers Reply with quote

As you alls knows. I ain't got no grammers . I have a question posed by one of my students for someone to answer. What is correct? " Everyone of us has problems in grammar or everyone of us have problems in grammar." I felt has is correct .
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frigginhippie



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that everyONE serves as ONE, and therefore singular ("one has").

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vikdk



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shouldn't it be - with grammar? and shouldn't it be - has a problem - or has many problems?
I'm not a grammar expert but they sound correct to me
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Don McChesney



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Everyone of us. . ." should be "all of us. . ."
So it should read "all of us have problems with grammar" or better still "we all have grammar problems."
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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikdk wrote:
shouldn't it be - with grammar? and shouldn't it be - has a problem - or has many problems?


And why would we have no choice in quantifying the plural of "problems"? Why can't we use it WITHOUT any quantifier? That's a mystery to me!

But "Everyone" is a SINGULAR, as has been pointed out previously, and this subject is in the third person, hence it agrees with 'has'.

The other options are euqally valid:
- We all HAVE prlblems with grammar...
- All HAVE problems...
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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks folks I too am starting to have difficulties with prepositions along with not being able to use gender appropriatley ,: teaching in China . While in Korea I developed problems distinguishing between L's and R's . I would say things like " I like to eat lice instead or rice" And while teaching French peole I would say things like " My car she goes good now ." What is this condition called ?
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frigginhippie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure, but I'd call you the recessive allele in the pair; you simply take on the characteristics of the dominant speaker Razz
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Dragonfly01



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: This is one simple! Reply with quote

Everyone = each one. You say "everyone IS (not are) happy". Thus, "everyone HAS problems with grammar". Wink
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My instinct would be to write "Every one of us..."
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Gregor



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe-doufu has it right.
"Everyone of us..." is just wrong.
"Every one of us has..." is correct. Note the space between "every" and "one". It makes a difference. It's a matter of emphasis. "Everyone has trouble with grammar" carries a much different meaning than "Every one of us has..."
The rule is, "every" singles someone or something out. Single is singular. It is not governed by the prepositional phrase, "of us".
If that is uncomfortable (and you should teach your students this, because it comes up A LOT), recast the sentence. "All of us have..." is good. "We all have..." is just as good, and may be (not "maybe") easier to explain, depending on the students' level.
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