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yamahuh
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 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: Best Web Sites for finding jobs... |
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Our time in Guangxi province will end in January 2006 and we're interested in finding jobs in another province. There used to be a sticky about the best job sites for ESL or EFL teachers but it appears to have been removed.
Apart from Dave's, Tefl.com and the ESL TEacher's Board are there any other 'must see' sites?? |
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Super Mario
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yamahuh
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Yeah strange eh?
Thanks for the tip. |
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erinyes
Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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Location: GuangDong, GaoZhou
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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The sites that find themselves in the links along the top Firefox are:
1. Dave's. Don't we love him! www.eslcafe.com
2. ESL Teacher's Board www.eslteachersboard.com
3. Asia Expat good for everything and a bit o' news too! www.Asiaxpat.com
There are so MANY more sites, but these are my fav.
Regards Everyone! |
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ahogan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I miss the websites sticky too. Please give it back. I promise to still be loyal to Dave. |
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clark.w.griswald
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Once you find work be sure to check out www.buxiban.com to see if there is any feedback from previous teachers archived about that school. Of course you should do this BEFORE you sign a contract with that school.
Research is the key to ensuring that you know enough about the school to decide whether or not it is a good opportunity, and just googling the name of the school can bring up some interesting results. |
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michalski
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: Great site for finding jobs... |
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I dunno why so many people don't know about this one -
http://www.englishjobmaze.com/
It's absolutely brilliant, easy to follow and extremely professional (and no, they didn't pay me to write this  ) |
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bearcanada
Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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Location: Calgary, Canada
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: Buxiban |
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Clark Girswold, I think it would be appropriate that you identify yourself as being connected with buxiban.com when you make these recommendations. You are knowingly misleading teachers into believing that you may be one of them and offering disinterested information. Identifying your biases openly is part of what we used to call 'intellectual honesty'. This has arisen with you before.
Also, I don't believe this forum is a place for you to surreptitiously promote your commercial website. If you want to run ads here, I think you should pay for them.
And in any case, the references and valuations on your buxiban website are pretty much useless for anyone seeking real information. From what I saw, everyone listed on your site has an 'average' rating. What does a person do with that information?
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Bearcanada we are fully aware of your opinions of the buxiban website and the fact that you are in the process of setting up a similar website yourself. Good luck to you as the more such sites there are out there the better. You certainly won�t hear any complaints from us as we certainly don�t feel that it is a contest.
| bearcanada wrote: |
| Clark Girswold, I think it would be appropriate that you identify yourself as being connected with buxiban.com when you make these recommendations. |
I link to the site in my signature so I think that it is pretty obvious that I believe in that site. I have stated on this forum a number of times that I am involved with the site but that I don�t get paid for my involvement.
| bearcanada wrote: |
| You are knowingly misleading teachers into believing that you may be one of them and offering disinterested information. |
How are teachers being misled exactly? The fact is that the Buxiban site is a good place to check out schools before accepting a position and that is exactly what I posted here. The fact is that the Buxiban site is the only site of its kind that I am aware of that you can go to and actually search for information about schools and actually find something. I am not aware of a site with as much information about schools overall and therefore I think it appropriate to direct people to check it out when researching schools. I didn�t suggest it as a site for finding work as quite honestly I believe that there are better sites out there for that purpose including the job offerings here at Dave�s.
| bearcanada wrote: |
| Identifying your biases openly is part of what we used to call 'intellectual honesty'. This has arisen with you before. |
The only thing that I am aware of that has happened before is that you came onto this forum and made claims about the buxiban site which were later shown to be totally incorrect. You accepted this eventually and apologized for not researching the subject appropriately prior to commenting. Anyone who is interested can check out this thread on Daves in which Bearcanada has now edited out his most of his unfounded claims:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=29181
It certainly appears that you are attempting to discredit the buxiban site as you want to set up your own. This doesn�t say much about you nor your site in my opinion. The Buxiban site and Nates China School Review would be the best two sites that I am aware of for researching schools in China and I have recommended both of them on more than one occasion in the past. I suggest that you learn to work with others and compliment the information offered on other sites rather than seeing it all as one big competition in which you need to act in an underhand fashion just to make an impact.
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| Also, I don't believe this forum is a place for you to surreptitiously promote your commercial website. If you want to run ads here, I think you should pay for them. |
The information on the Buxiban website is free to teachers. I am unsure how this constitutes a commercial interest that should involve paid advertising. The information is there for those who want it, and can be ignored by those who don�t.
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| And in any case, the references and valuations on your buxiban website are pretty much useless for anyone seeking real information. |
You are entitled to your opinion, but I certainly don�t agree with it, and judging by the feedback about that site I would suggest that most people find the site useful.
Much of the information on that site comes first hand from the teachers that have worked in the schools and for the recruiters listed. I am unsure as to why you feel that this information is not �real information�. It is a site that a lot of people have been asking for for a long time, and finally it has come to fruition. Building the database is however an ongoing process and the more information added to the site the more useful it will become so if you want to see improvements in that site then why not submit some useful information about schools and recruiters.
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| From what I saw, everyone listed on your site has an 'average' rating. What does a person do with that information? |
Well you obviously didn�t look very hard, nor did you read the information concerning the listings on that site. I suggest that you take a moment to read some of the information on that site concerning the rating system otherwise you run the risk of making yourself look somewhat naive. |
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bearcanada
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yamahuh
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Wow!!
What an amazing list thanks so much! |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| And the reason this topic can't be a sticky is??? |
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bearcanada
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject: More job sites |
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There are 2 important job sites omitted from the above list. These are commercial job sites not limited to ESL positions, but they have many postings for teachers.
http://www.51job.com Click on 'English' at the top of the page, then go to 'job search'. Some days this site has hundreds of teaching jobs (quite a few duplicated, but still...).
http://www.zhaopin.com Same comments as above.
If someone wants this to be a sticky, I think you have to refer it to a moderator.
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Super Mario
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the mods prowl the boards and would be aware of the sentiments expressed.
Vested interests. |
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NateM
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| There used to be a sticky on "the best resources". I'm not sure what happened to it. Perhaps I'm just delusional today. |
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