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Teaching In Turkey for the summer of 2006
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selin555



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: Teaching In Turkey for the summer of 2006 Reply with quote

Hello;

I will be graduating university next spring and I would like to spend my summer in Turkey teaching english. I will be graduating with an honors in Politics and a minor in Philosophy. I have yet to complete a program to obtain the TESL or any other sort of certification in order to teach.
I have a few questions to anyone already teaching in Turkey.

1) What sort of certification is best and are the online programs credible?
2) What are the opportunities like in terms of teaching late April-late August
3) Where is a good place to look for work?
4) My friend is also comming with me however she is not yet done her degree, does she have a good chance of finding employement?

I am interested in teaching in Turkey because I am in fact Turkish but I have lived abroad my entire life and I would like to spend some time in Turkey before I continue in my graduate studies.

Any input and/or information would be fantastic

Thanks Again

Selin
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tekirdag



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is unlikely to find honest work for just a summer. Although a summer camp could be an option. eek Shocked 24 hour kiddies!

a CELTA is the best minimum. An online program might get you a job but, since they have nothing practical/hands on (i.e. observing a class, practice teaching) they aren't so good and the better schools won't hire someone with such a qualification. And a good school wouldn't hire someone for just a summer. And, I'm sure, you don't want the headache of working in a nasty school.

If you are just looking to spend some time in Turkey and not spend a lot of money, then working in a pension on the South Coast(sun, beach, nightlife) could be an option- no qualifications necessary. I have met people who, while travelling in Turkey, picked up work in Olympos or �l�deniz. I am sure it is possible to get work in other places, too. The pay is crap but includes food/room so you wouldn't be spending much money. It's a backpacker type option.
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEFL IS a backpacker type option.
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NMB



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it is if you treat it as such...Anyone else get the feeling that Mark Loyd is 31's twin???
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: You are quick Reply with quote

The OP certainly treat TEFL as such. With no experience of relevent qualifications she and her degreeless friend expect to come here and get a TEFL job and at the wrong time of year.
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching In Turkey for the summer of 2006 Reply with quote

selin555 wrote:
Hello;

I will be graduating university next spring and I would like to spend my summer in Turkey teaching english. I will be graduating with an honors in Politics and a minor in Philosophy. I have yet to complete a program to obtain the TESL or any other sort of certification in order to teach.
I have a few questions to anyone already teaching in Turkey.

1) What sort of certification is best and are the online programs credible?
2) What are the opportunities like in terms of teaching late April-late August
3) Where is a good place to look for work?
4) My friend is also comming with me however she is not yet done her degree, does she have a good chance of finding employement?

I am interested in teaching in Turkey because I am in fact Turkish but I have lived abroad my entire life and I would like to spend some time in Turkey before I continue in my graduate studies.

Any input and/or information would be fantastic

Thanks Again

Selin


Answers to your questions:

1 Online ''qualifications'' are worthless. Photocopying someone else`s or making your own would be a better option. PM me an email address and you can have my CELTA scanned to you. A four weeker like the CELTA is not worth the time and money doing just for the summer.

2 Almost none except for a shortish summer camp.

3 Summer camps

4 Both of you have almost no chance of finding TEFL work except for the summer camps I mentioned and you will not need any qualifications apart from being native speakers which you probably are not anyway. Same goes for most TEFLing in Turkey.

By the way it is graduating FROM.
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selin555



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching In Turkey for the summer of 2006 Reply with quote

[quote="Mark Loyd"]
selin555 wrote:
Answers to your questions:

1 Online ''qualifications'' are worthless. Photocopying someone else`s or making your own would be a better option. PM me an email address and you can have my CELTA scanned to you. A four weeker like the CELTA is not worth the time and money doing just for the summer.

2 Almost none except for a shortish summer camp.

3 Summer camps

4 Both of you have almost no chance of finding TEFL work except for the summer camps I mentioned and you will not need any qualifications apart from being native speakers which you probably are not anyway. Same goes for most TEFLing in Turkey.

By the way it is graduating FROM.



Mark;

Thank you for your superb grammar correction in terms of pointing out that I omitted the word "FROM." I was unaware that this forum was doubling as a grammar test. Rolling Eyes

Furthermore, I am not interested in doctoring anyone's certification. I believe that this is illegal and is an insult to academic integrity. You go as far as to demise my friend's education to "degreeless" but then you suggest creating fake certificates. I am also curious as to why your answers were so rude. You assume that I am not a native speaker. I was born and raised in Canada, what more does being a native speaker entail?

I wrote some questions on this forum in order to obtain some information for an idea, not to listen to rude and uncalled for criticisms.

I do not mind studying for a CELTA or a TEFL as I believe it will be useful in the future.

Regards;

Selin
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: TEFL MEFL Reply with quote

TEFL is an insult to academic integrity.

You are quite happy to have students pay good money for a teacher but have that teacher be one without a degree. Not much integrity there.

A native speaker entails the language in question being your L1. For you non-TEFLers that is your mother tongue.

''A TEFL'' is absolutely useless outside TEFL and pretty much useless in TEFL other than it allows you to get a low paid dead end job.

Welcome to Turkey and happy TEFLing.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selin, you should know that "Mark Loyd" is a very disgruntled, very pessimistic and very pitiful individual who has made some very bad decisions in his career and life. He then blames all of his "misfortune" on English teaching. Thus you will constantly hear his tirades against "TEFL" as a career and all "TEFLers" as incompetent, poor souls with no futures and no money.

Just ignore him. His sad life is indeed sad, so he takes pleasure in trying to make you as miserable and hopeless as he himself has become.

Many people really enjoy teaching English in Turkey, so you should definitely listen to their advice. Ignore the one pathetic loser.
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