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Schooling for Expat Kids in Kong Kong

 
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sifu_sensei



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Schooling for Expat Kids in Kong Kong Reply with quote

Hi all

I have a BA in Linguistics, a master's in ELT, the RSA Cert., the Trinity Diploma, and 12 years' overseas experience. I'm also currently working on a doctorate in Applied Linguistics, though this will take several years to complete.

I am interested in working at a university in Hong Kong as an ELT/EFL lecturer but would like to know from anyone with kids whether it is possible for an EFL teacher to afford schooling in Hong Kong. I am married and have two sons who will be entering high school next year, and am not sure whether I would be able to make ends meet if I had to pay for international school fees.

Any advice or opinions would be most welcome.

Thanks
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starfall



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friends have told me that the cost of sending a child to an ESF Secondary
School is roughly 6, 000 to 7, 000 HK$ a month. Add on school bus fees, uniform, books, etc.
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once again



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wish to send your kids to a bona fide international school you will be looking at a minimum of around 150,000 HK dollars per year. English medium of instruction DSS schools (some of which are as good as if not better than many of the international schools) are about half the price of that at present. I guess you may find it more difficult to get a place at the DSS schools as they tend to admit more local students and will follow a more localised curriculum.
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sifu_sensei



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

starfall wrote:
Friends have told me that the cost of sending a child to an ESF Secondary
School is roughly 6, 000 to 7, 000 HK$ a month. Add on school bus fees, uniform, books, etc.


Hi

Thanks for the information. Is that 6-7,000 per month, per kid?

Thanks again
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dandan



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the information. Is that 6-7,000 per month, per kid?


If you get an oversize uniform and put two kids inside it you might be able to get two in for the price of one. Don't worry, the teachers won't notice, their view is usually obscured by the huge piles of money they have to carry around.
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well-travelled



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay $HK 7.800 per month for my son (Grade 9) to attend one of the ESF schools. ESF follows the British curriculum up to GCSEs, but does IB after that (at least in my son's school).

The school has a good reputation with very good exam results etc...

Many ESF schools are over-subscribed and there is no guarantee that a place will be available in the school or year of your choice - although expats are given priority.

There are other international schools but these are more expensive than ESF schools.

The option of going to a local English-medium school is, in theory, available to expat kids - but is, in practice, difficult. Besides which, the system may not be to your liking.

well-travelled
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sifu_sensei



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Thanks. Now another question. Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

Thanks for your help. Now another question: how much could I expect to make with a master's and diploma if I found a job at a university working as an EFL lecturer.

Cheers

Sifu
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Horizontal Hero



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect you will struggle to get a job with a masters. It's very competitive in HK. But others please correct me if I'm wrong. A publishing history might help. I'm hoping to finish a PhD within six months myself, and have published about ten articles and conference papers, so hoping that will help my own cause.
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sifu_sensei



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horizontal Hero wrote:
I suspect you will struggle to get a job with a masters. It's very competitive in HK. But others please correct me if I'm wrong. A publishing history might help. I'm hoping to finish a PhD within six months myself, and have published about ten articles and conference papers, so hoping that will help my own cause.


Hi

That's what I had initially thought, but having looked at the EFL departments on the web, many of the lecturers appear to have dips or master's degrees.

For teaching applied linguistics, on the other hand, it does look like you need a doctorate, and I'm well behind you there as I won't finish for several years.

Good luck
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once again



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong seems to be very strange about qualifications. I know people working at Unies with only graduate qualifications. As has been noted here before, there are lecturers teaching on the PGDE course who "only" have masters. I would have thought it very possible to get a job with a masters. However, seemingly ironically, you may find yourself much better rewarded financially by working in the secondary or primary school sectors. The salaries for Uni staff are not as high as one may expect.
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