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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: The Big Island, Hawaii

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the way that Japanese people are so quick to say "We Japanese..." to explain behavior that amazed me. And that the "we Japanese" explanation was often unsolicited. My tendency as an American is to look first at my individual behavior and then at larger groups.

I knew a teacher who used to mark the essays for the United Nations English exam, anytime a candidate used the phrase "we Japanese" he instantly failed the candidate!

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Sherri
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shuize



Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you ever hear Japanese say "We Japanese..." to justify things among themeselves?

Sure it happens. But very rarely. I think it's more a "You foreigner/Me Japanese" and I'd rather not spend an hour trying to explain why we do it this way.

By the way, Paulh is not alone in his frustrations about Japanese family life and the "Well, honey, why don't you work three jobs while I stay home with the kids" attitude among Japanese women.

I've seen it a lot in my years here both in and out of the foreign community. The Japanese woman is often a very different creature once the children come. More than one of my foreign male friends have confided in me that they only plan to stay married long enough to raise the children.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my health check results back and the main red flag was my weight, a fatty liver and generally a lack of exercise. i dont eat any more than she does but still put on the pounds. I also put it down to my weight and eating to stress at having work all the time as well as study, worry about future etc.

her curt response was that "does that mean that all people who have stress put on weight?" the Prime Minister has a stressfull job but he's not fat.

Her basic attitude is that I can run my body and health into the ground, work till i keel over, be stressed out to the max, but its OK as long as the money keeps rolling in, I dont have a heart attack and become incapacitated.

I have mentioned her getting a job to pick up some of the slack but that idea falls on deaf ears because of her age and school-age kids.
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Sherri



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a stay at home mom for just over 3 years and I DID NOT LIKE IT! I could not wait to get a job. Now I work semifull time and am finishing my MA dissertation and take care of 2 kids. I like the variety and the intellectual stimulation. I also like the fact that my husband can work from home. Now we have a more fulfilling family life than we had in Japan since he is not working so much. We don't earn nearly the same amount of money, but our lifestyle is miles better. Paul H, I know you are thinking about it because you have mentioned it in other posts, but maybe it is time you left Japan and changed your lifestyle?

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Sherri
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sherri wrote:
I was a stay at home mom for just over 3 years and I DID NOT LIKE IT! I could not wait to get a job. Now I work semifull time and am finishing my MA dissertation and take care of 2 kids. I like the variety and the intellectual stimulation. I also like the fact that my husband can work from home. Now we have a more fulfilling family life than we had in Japan since he is not working so much. We don't earn nearly the same amount of money, but our lifestyle is miles better. Paul H, I know you are thinking about it because you have mentioned it in other posts, but maybe it is time you left Japan and changed your lifestyle?

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Sherri


Sherri, Im waiting on a job offer overseas where i would travel and live by myself while the wife stays in japan with the kids, essentially the same as a Japanese salaryman flung to a far corner of Japan by his company.

I have a good income, savings real estate at home but its not worth very much if your health packs up or all you can think about is making sure you have enough money coming in every month.

Its not exactly what I dreamed my life would be but thats what is happening and you have to deal with it. Kids still go to school and have to be fed and I dont get much choice in the matter now.

New job is still good, slightly lower pay, less stress (I would probably take my dog too, would rather take him than the wife, to be honest, he doesnt cost as much and he's loyal). To the wife Im just an ATM machine and thats what I told her. All she cares about is that I spit out a pay check every month.
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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul
I really hope you get the job! Like you (I think) we had good money coming in, we saved a lot but we were both so stressed out by life in Tokyo. It is so different now. I am so glad we made the move. My husband's health improved so much that he got off the high blood pressure meds he was on in Japan. It is so worth it.

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Sherri
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Stosskraft



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Paul,

Any chance you can make time in your schedule for some exercise? Even an hour at the local gym or Dojo, it would do wonders for your physical and metal health.
Also consider a SLOW change in diet to shed some of the extra pounds. Many people make the mistake of drastically changing their diet to rapidly and this can cause other problems, such as fatigue and headaches.
Take care and get better, remember your health is number one priority for yourself and family.
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Stosskraft



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