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bigbadsuzie



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: New law Reply with quote

I heard from my students that the Prime Minister has passed a new law changing the spelling of the country from Turkey to T�rkiye and that it should be used in all corrospondence . Does anyone think that this is a good idea ? Comments graciously accepted as I for one don't .
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Frizzie Lizzie



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question Why not?
I mean, why can't they change their name? I wouldn't want my country to have a bird's name!!...or a name that means something which has nothing to do with that particular nationality.
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sandyhoney2



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Turkey" is the English version of their real name, Turkiye, so I tend to agree with Frizzie, why not? It will still and always be known in the English speaking world as "Turkey". Considering Ataturk's affinity with the French, I'm surprised the official name isn't Turquie. Razz
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rrrichard



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandyhoney2 wrote:
Considering Ataturk's affinity with the French, I'm surprised the official name isn't Turquie. Razz


Because you can't use "q" in turkey Wink
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandyhoney2:
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Turkey" is the English version of their real name, Turkiye, so I tend to agree with Frizzie, why not? It will still and always be known in the English speaking world as "Turkey".


Perhapes not. After the start of the republic in 1923, the turks wanted the west to stop using Constaniople(?). So they stoped all letters that were posted using the old name and sent them back. They even turned back diplomates who had the wrong name.

It worked then perhapes it can work again. Wink
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jovican



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: turk Reply with quote

as a Turk, it really felt awful to be named as "turkey".. I believe it will create problems to use "�".. Some clever guys come up with the ides to call our country as "TURKLAND" why not?? There is Finland Deutchland England Switzerland.
I believe instead of T�rkiye, Turkland would be more suitable..
Let's follow what's goin on.
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justme



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the international post is concerned, can a country change its name to one that has a symbol that's not on all keyboards? Or would they just not fuss about the umlaut?

Is it really important enough to make a law? Confusing the country with the bird is something that's pretty much only amusing to Anglophone schoolchildren and EFL students...

Turkland is good. It's the most descriptive anyway, though perhaps not everyone would be pleased about it...
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand. Shall we insist that Turks don't refer to it as ingleterra (or whatever) but infact Great Britian.

I think this name changing thing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turkland would actually be a fairly accurate translation of turkiye, which of course means 'belonging/pertaining to Turks' - compare with Osmaniye, Suleymaniye etc.
Failing that, how about Turkistan?
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golightly wrote:
turkland would actually be a fairly accurate translation of turkiye, which of course means 'belonging/pertaining to Turks' - compare with Osmaniye, Suleymaniye etc.
Failing that, how about Turkistan?


Why doN't they just go the whole hog and call it The United Attaturk State of ne yapilim abi? Bu T�rkiye!

Anyway, I haven't heard any of this, I strongly suspect that it's a silly rumour.
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golightly wrote:
turkland would actually be a fairly accurate translation of turkiye, which of course means 'belonging/pertaining to Turks' - compare with Osmaniye, Suleymaniye etc.
Failing that, how about Turkistan?


there is a place called Turkistan so i dont think it is a good idea but Turkiye sound really good.
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know Alex is right. After all the Turks call India Hindistan
(Turkey land) and the bird is called Hindi. So who is calling who a bird. Confused Razz
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and we call 'Egypt' 'Mısır'(Corn)... The word 'Egypt' comes from 'Agyptos' but still cant understand why it is called 'Mısır' in Turkish
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it is called Misir in Arabic.
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and Igiltere ,Fransa,Rusya are all Arabic arent they?
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