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Question about Gay Civil Unions in BsAs
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jdq



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: seems really gay friendly to me Reply with quote

i don't happen to be gay, and i've only been here a few weeks... but my real estate guy is definitely very gay and openly lives with his partner and are clearly open. once i got here he gave me a "gay map of buenos aires" which i was walking around with for a few days before realizing what it was (actually a good map, the only thing "gay" about it were the ads around the back). i didn't really care exactly but i didn't want the ladies thinking i wasn't available Smile ! I also had a gay fellow, fairly obviously gay, try to chat me up at an event, he didn't seem to worry about it. Actually he did successfully chat me up, but I think he also realized I wasn't gay. Also, in some crowds I've been with (not "gay" per se), men give each other that cheek kiss that all women do here, with men and with each other. Even Manhattan at its most pretentiously "euro" and trying to be "sophisticated" doesn't do that! So basically I haven't found this town to be hyper macho gay bashing type of place. Like anywhere I'm sure finding some gay bashing thugs isn't impossible, but from what I can tell they'd probably be more interested in your wallet and watch than your proclivities. Civil union i have no idea and would doubt, but i've no idea. Note that abortion isn't even legal here, so I doubt if they're about to run out and legislate gay marriage... not that the two are necessarily connected.
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JonnytheMann



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, jdq. I appreciate it. Seems like BsAs will be fine for me. My boyfriend has slowly been coming out to all his friends, and so far, everyone's been completely supportive. And that's in Quilmes ... not uber-trendy Palermo. His family probably will not approve at all, but it seems that my generation (I'm 23) is becoming pretty accepting. It's the same in my case. My parents don't approve at all, but all my friends are fine with it.

I'm glad you can be a good sport about gay men chatting you up. Honestly, let it boost your ego because it almost certainly means that you're good-looking and friendly. Laughing

P.S. Actually, gay civil unions are legal in BsAs.
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matttheboy



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Posts: 854
Location: Valparaiso, Chile

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonnytheMann wrote:
I'm glad you can be a good sport about gay men chatting you up. Honestly, let it boost your ego because it almost certainly means that you're good-looking and friendly. Laughing


So that's why i can't walk out my flat without a load of guys trying to chat me up... Cool
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JonnytheMann



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Matt, having seen a picture of you ... I would say yes. Smile

But the fact that you've got pounds, not pesos, in the bank may have something to do with it, too. LOL jk
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matttheboy



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Location: Valparaiso, Chile

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, bloody third world latinos, all they see is a walking ATM... Same problem when i was living in ecuador...there was me thinking i was gorgeous and all they were after was my money and a ticket to blighty Cool

(wonder whether moonraven will come along and take what i just wrote seriously...that would be fun...)
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JonnytheMann



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, even so, at least you can rest assured you're a good-looking ATM. LOL! Laughing
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carlos-england



Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 165
Location: Buenos Aires - Cabalitto

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAO: Johnno...

I would like a full report on being gay in BA and
your thoughts and experinces... I'm interested
in what you have to say about this cheers!
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YanquiQuilme�o



Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 122
Location: Quilmes, Argentina

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonnytheBanned ... errrr, JonnytheMann will write about this later this week. He's got to leave the cyber caf� right now.

I'll try to give a report as soon as I can.
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carlos-england



Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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Location: Buenos Aires - Cabalitto

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaaah I didn't know Johnnys account was 'verboten'
but your account will do yanqui Wink
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ATTORNEY



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 30
Location: Palermo, Buenos Aires

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply to your first question Reply with quote

Hi, REDLEY here again, for some reason my first account was desactivated. Bummer.

1. Yes, you can enter a civil union in Ciudad de Buenos Aires (Capital) since the law includes same sex partners. You must comply with a minimum of 2 years term of the relationship before being able to be united.

2. It will give you NO rights under Federal law (taxation, immigration, etc.) so it doesnt equal "marriage". In other words, the civil union wont help you get residency (immigration) nor tax benefits or any other benefit included in federal laws.

3. Try to get your residency as a "rentista" (only if you plan to live here for a minimum of one year).

We are evolving towards same sex marriage, specially after SPAIN adopted it...but dont really know when that will happen.

Good luck.
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YanquiQuilme�o



Joined: 20 Oct 2005
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Location: Quilmes, Argentina

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope to God that gay marriage gets legalized here in Argentina so that I can get legal. I mean, I know it's not that bad being "illegal" here, but I certainly don't want to be illegal for years and years.

Sadly, I can't apply as a rentista because I don't have a pension that equals the requisite $2,500 pesos a month.
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ATTORNEY



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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Location: Palermo, Buenos Aires

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmmm...I know you dont have a AR$ 2.500 (u$s 830) a month income from the US to be eligible for a rentista residency, and you know that as well.....BUT.....do they (DNM = INS) know that? Wink))). No, They dont. Cool

There are always tricks Razz and I am not talking about bribe.

bend it...bend it ! dont break it....The effort is worth only if you plan to be here long term, if not, its not worth it to do all the efforts just for a couple of months.

PM me. Good luck.
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vivaBarca



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 151
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be no �Gay Marriage� per se down here, but hey, something must be working allright...I don�t think ʹve ever met and seen so many gays and transvestites in my entire life since I�ve been to BA and C�rdoba!

None of this is too surprising I guess, considering that Buenos Aires is now considered by some as the �New Mecca of gay tourism in south America:� http://espanol.news.yahoo.com/050309/2/yj4y.html

Fabulous Wink!
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