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Is JET a waste of my time?
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taikibansei



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
I have heard in extreme cases, of JETs saving half their salaries (150,000 yen a month) over 3 years which is about 5.4 million yen. In New Zealand thats about 70 grand in 3 years. thats exceptional but it can be done. I think on JET saving 100,000 yen a month after all expenses out of a 300,000 yen salary if you are single is doable

Dont forget also the 700,000 yen you get back in pension refund at the end of 3 years. thats $NZ 10,000 right there.


See, I've met a lot of JETs who bragged about how much (100,000+/month) they saved...many without having to work that hard. Those that wanted to take the job seriously could--and managed to do some pretty neat things by all accounts. Others would concentrate on other stuff, including graduate school (or traveling, or partying...).

Even though I made a lot more money, I was always a bit jealous of my JET friends--all that free time many of them had, for instance....
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taikibansei wrote:


You are not going to pay off such a loan easily as an eikaiwa instructor.


I just wanted to say that I'm a Kiwi who had a $13000 loan back in 1999- that was when the interest was around 9% per year and my loan had increased at a horrifying rate. I saw no chance of paying it off in NZ with the economy as it was so I came back to Japan ( I had been here in 1996 on a WHV) and worked for Nova, since it was the easiest option recruitment-wise, and paid off that loan in less than 18 months.
It was a time when the exchange rate was about 20% better than it is now, plus I worked a lot of overtime and really lived on a budget. I did manage a couple of overseas trips in that time though, and went out drinking once a week or so, so it wasn't too miserable an existence.

So you know it can be done if you're willing to be frugal, on a JET salary with the benefits they get, even more possible. I'm older now and wouldn't like to have to do it again but fresh out of university it wasn't so bad.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another plus for JETS or ALTS is their work schedule. By finishing work much earlier than eikaiwa instructors, you have a better chance at finding private students. Although privates are a big non-no for JETs, most still do it and some (around where I live) get the BOE to give them extra paid work.
I would recommend the JET program to anyone fresh out of uni.
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wee eejit



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Teaching in Japan- JET Reply with quote

Hey Adriana

I am a JET currently thinking about not recontracting after my first year and leaving to work for an eikawa. JET does pay more :about 300,000 but you can get about 280,000-290,000 for some eikawa jobs. Just depends how hard you look. I have a huge amount of debt and have hardly made a dent so far. I don`t really know any JET that has saved a great deal since they have been here. My rent is comparably low - about but I pay for what I get and what I get is a hut. Some of my friends pay nothing but that is dependent on the gig you get. Generally if you work for a local BOE (elementary and junior high school) you get a better deal that if you work for the prefectural office (senior high school). The local BOEs tend to have more cash and seem to put their JETs in accomodation of a far greater quality.
If you are placed in a city you can kiss goodbye to a great big chunk of you paycheck. A friend pays 70,000yen for the tiniest room I have ever seen. Also you are often liable for key money and deposit. Key money is a nice term for a big fat present to the landlord for having you. A friend near Osaka paid over 2000pounds sterling for this privilege.
I thought my money would go a lot farther but once I pay for living costs which can be quite high I never find myself with a whole lot left. I also live in a rural place which can be lonely as hell and drains my income as for my own sanity I like to escape every so often.
I am not sure whether I want to be a teacher and although I know some teachers here on the JET program with me, this is not a job-furthering career. If you are a teacher and are used to, and enjoy having the control of your classroom then being an ALT could be a problem. It took me 3 months to get it into my head that I was going to have to relinquish all control to the teacher. Very frustrating when there is no discipline and a class of 40. I am often reined in by the confines of teachers who cannot be bothered and textbooks which are appalling to say the least. Sometimes I get to do something creative but this is rare.
Very few of the teachers I work with show me the respect that I give them. I am treated like a second class citizen most of the time although this situation is improving. The person who was supposed to be looking after my welfare was so horrible in the first 6 months that it was almost impossible to work with her.
Anyway I am painting a really bad picture! I have friends that are both JETs and some that work in eikawas. Both have their downfalls. With JET you never really know where you could get. Would you be happy in the middle of nowhere with no train route or shops? However you have a standard working week and some of the best benefits around for ALTs. Anyway have blabbed on enough!
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kdynamic



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a JET. I don't try at all and I save over 100,000 yen a month. I have a nice apartment in a midsize town. And I find my work very fulfilling and rewarding. That's the thing about JET, it's a crapshoot and you never know what you're going to get. But it also comes down to your attitude and what you want out of it as well.
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AdrianaBanana



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't asked back for an interview but thanks for the suggestions anyway.
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