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wings
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: Teaching other languges |
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I have tought ESL for several years in a few different countires. I am interested in teaching for a year or two in Japan and my boyfriend is also very interested. However the problem is that he is not a native English speaker and he would not be comfortable teaching English. We have been looking into the possiblility of him teaching Spanish which is his native language. It seems that NOVA offers Spanish lessons, but we haven't been able to find information about any other Spanish as a Second language courses or schools in Japan. If anyone has any information about schools that offer Spanish courses, or any advice for us at all it would be a big help. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching other languges |
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wings wrote: |
I have tought ESL for several years in a few different countires. I am interested in teaching for a year or two in Japan and my boyfriend is also very interested. However the problem is that he is not a native English speaker and he would not be comfortable teaching English. We have been looking into the possiblility of him teaching Spanish which is his native language. It seems that NOVA offers Spanish lessons, but we haven't been able to find information about any other Spanish as a Second language courses or schools in Japan. If anyone has any information about schools that offer Spanish courses, or any advice for us at all it would be a big help. |
Does your boyfriend have a degree? He will need the degree for his visa sponsorship, and its unlikely he will get sponsorship to teach only Spanish as i dont think there is the demand. They may get him teaching low level English as well. I work at a university which has Spanish classes with native speakers but all the teachers have Masters degrees. Schools like Berlitz and NOVA will be your best bet. |
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wings
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Does your boyfriend have a degree? He will need the degree for his visa sponsorship |
He does have a degree and is looking into taking a language teaching course and is currently tutoring some basic level Spanish students to build up his resume. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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wings wrote: |
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Does your boyfriend have a degree? He will need the degree for his visa sponsorship |
He does have a degree and is looking into taking a language teaching course and is currently tutoring some basic level Spanish students to build up his resume. |
I dont know of any courses to teach Spanish here but most of the teachers just use a Spanish textbook. Keep in mind students are RAW beginners at spanish while English is taught at high school. students here have a passive knowledge of English but low productive skills. I imagine Spanish he would either have to use English to explain grammar or use basic Japanese. Lots of handholding involved. I worked at NOVA and they had French and German teachers.
Not much help maybe, but he can go to the SIG on JALT for Teaching Other Languages than English (OLE?) . Maybe some info on there
http://jalt.org/groups/OLE |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Nova has a multi-media centre in Osaka which has teachers teaching various languages online- I assume Spanish teachers' requirements are the same as English teachers: a university degree and making a good impression in the interview. |
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lalalateda
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 72 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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I've been job hunting lately too. I speak french and conversational Spanish. A lot of the employers I've spoken to have asked me if I'm willing to teach some french or Spanish classes. They seem to be slightly more interest in french but there are people looking to learn Spanish.
If he is willing to teach English as well as Spanish it should be easier to get a job. But, I'd expect that it would take a lot of searching for the right school.
Good luck!! |
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Zzonkmiles

Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Nova has a multi-media centre in Osaka which has teachers teaching various languages online- I assume Spanish teachers' requirements are the same as English teachers: a university degree and making a good impression in the interview. |
The MM Center offers Spanish, Italian, French, German, and Chinese lessons in addition to English lessons. The Spanish teachers come from Spain, although there are a handful from Argentina. I was explicitly told by a NOVA higher-up that they avoid hiring people from places like Mexico and Nicaragua because they don't want to cater to "refugees." Similarly, The French teachers come from France, although maybe there's one or two from Quebec. |
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Hoser

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 694 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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God forbid any Quebequois refugees make it into Japan  |
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bornslippy1981
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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The YMCA might offer Spanish classes. If you're in a small town, you could probably pick up a few private lessons, but be able to charge a lot more as there aren't many Spanish teachers in these towns.
I knew a guy from France teaching French in the countryside, and he got 6000 Yen for an hour lesson outside of school. In the same city, a co-worker taught Italian to the mayor and got 10,000 Yen for an hour.
The Nova MM might be a good option for him, as a way into the country, and then he can explore other routes for jobs, as well as have private lessons in and around Osaka. I was in Kobe last summer, and saw in their international exchange building a number of people with messages that they were looking for a Spanish teacher. Kobe isn't too far from Osaka, so he might be able to meet students along the train route.
I've heard the interviews for non-English speakers at Nova are conducted in English, but it sounds like he knows enough of the language so should be fine. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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You might want to avoid the major factory centres which have a a lot of Peruvian/Chilian etc factory workers. I mean the second langauge in Aichi is Portuguese. |
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Nismo

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 520
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm not positive about this, but I was informed that you need to have completed 12 years of education in the language that you will be instructing, unless you have a degree specifically in that area.
For example, if you have a degree in engineering but went through a K-12 system in an English-speaking country, you are eligible for a visa to instruct English.
Or, if you are proficient in English as your second language, and majored in linguistics, you are eligible for a visa to instruct English.
But, if you are proficient in English as your second language, and majored in engineering, you are not eligible.
Again, I am not certain about this. It's all hearsay. |
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Zzonkmiles

Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Hoser wrote: |
God forbid any Quebequois refugees make it into Japan  |
I think you misinterpreted my post.
Most Spanish teachers are from Spain with a few from Argentina or Chile. They don't want "refugees" (that was the word they used) from Mexico or El Salvador, for example.
Similarly, most French teachers are from France with a few from Quebec. Although I didn't write this part, I assumed the reader would understand that French speakers from Haiti or the Ivory Coast had a good chance of NOT being hired for the same "no refugee" reason. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Nismo wrote: |
I'm not positive about this, but I was informed that you need to have completed 12 years of education in the language that you will be instructing, unless you have a degree specifically in that area.
For example, if you have a degree in engineering but went through a K-12 system in an English-speaking country, you are eligible for a visa to instruct English.
Or, if you are proficient in English as your second language, and majored in linguistics, you are eligible for a visa to instruct English.
But, if you are proficient in English as your second language, and majored in engineering, you are not eligible.
Again, I am not certain about this. It's all hearsay. |
Nismo, according to the specifications for the Humanities visa on the MOFA website for Japanese visas.
Native speakers of English need a degree to get a work visa. If they dont have a degree they must have at least 3 years related work experience in the field they want to work in.
Non-native speakers to get sponsorship to teach a foreign language (English need at least 12 years of their education taught IN English as well as a university degree in any discipline. A degree in Linguistics is not sufficient if they dont have work experience and have not spent 12 years of their education taught in English. They could be hired to teach their native language though. A Dutch or a Swede fluent in English may have trouble getting hired if they were educated in their own countries though. The employer must be satisfied they are capable and qualified, not necessarily just on paper, as they usually tell students that all foreign teachers are native speakers.
Technically those are the visa rules for obtaining a visa but in practice non-native speakers do get sponsored, often at a lower salary than a native speaker. GABA and Wisdom 21 are two schools that hire and sponsor non-native speakers. GABA is said to have lost its right to sponsor teachers a while ago but this is rather old news and I cant confirm if they can still sponsor visas. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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As stated there are rules and there are rules. I work with a girl who Chinese Malay but had emirgrated to Australia since she was 11. So she certainly didn't have the required 12 years. Then again she did have a degree in Early childhood education. Still I think that if a reputable school is willing to sponser someone then Immigration is not going to go through the application with a fine tooth comb. |
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