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MsMexico



Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: ESL Teaching With No Teaching Certificate Reply with quote

Does one have to have a certification? Is it possible to teach in Mexico without a certification. I was an English/Spanish major.

If not are there other areas that would take me.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this in the Mexico forum. I'm sure you'll get a variety of opinions. You'll find work without a TEFL certificate, but you won't get a work visa without the degree, and many places require both.

If you've never taught before, I'm of the opinion that you should get some kind of training, but I am heavily biased.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, Guy, but as I understand it if the OP has completed a degree, it wouldn't matter too much exactly what degree. Is this right?

But what kind of work you're looking for will determine what, if any, training you need to get. It's true that there are plenty of places, all over LA, that will contract native speakers as teachers without any teacher training or experience.

The thing is, do you wanna work in those places? Personally, I do not. It's hard to do a good job if you're not prepared. School owners usually know this, and if they are willing to take you anyway, it's because they don't care. They know that the market is big enough where they are that they can count on new students to replace unhappy ones who leave.

But what that means, as a teacher, is that you'll constantly deal with dissatisfied students, high student turnover, etc. And a director/owner who feels that "any native speaker will do" is unlikely to have much respect for teachers in general. And really unlikely to treat his or her own teachers with much respect. A person who runs a school on untrained teachers is in it for the money, and won't see you as a professional to be respected, but merely a resource to be exploited.

So is it possible to find work without training? Absolutely. Is it a good idea...well, I wouldn't recommend it.

Just my two cents worth,
Justin
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
You'll find work [in Mexico] without a TEFL certificate, but you won't get a work visa without the degree, and many places require both.

Is that really true for all parts of the country? Maybe something relatively new with immigration policy? I know that a few years ago the local immigration office granted work visas to applicants who had been offered TEFL jobs and had neither TEFL certification nor a degree. I don't know if immigration still does that, however.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of degree-challenged folks working legally with 'only' a TEFL certificate. Mind you, the only TEFL teachers I've met locally have both degrees and certificates, but that's because it's a requirement of the hiring universities, not immigration - or so I thought.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're both right, but I wasn't about to open up that can of worms here. The employer would be the one to make the call I guess since immigration offices vary so.
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