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Yosma



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: IH / EF - First or Fast Reply with quote

Does anyone know what's happening to IH in Istanbul? When the previous IH (Levent and Suadiye) changed their franchise to EF English First I understood that they were still also holding on to the IH franchise as well.

Now English Fast seems to be recruiting through IH world. Is this incarnation of 'the Fast' as reputable as I heard it once was?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you hear this? Ih was taken over by English First. But many moons ago the Fast was probably the best gig in town(31 would agree with me on this!!!!) and at one point( a decade and a bit ago) they were working with IH and indeed handing out CELTA certification. However, around 1998 it all went pear shaped for Nazif Ulgen(the owner of the Fast) and the last I heard he had opened up the first Kurdish language school in Turkey.
The return of Nazif bey Question Shocked
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Yosma



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's the ih link:

http://www.ihworld.com/recruitment/senior_vacancies.asp

or on 'the Fast's' site:

http://www.englishfast.net/recruitment.htm
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't comment on The Ih links but if you follow the Fast links the most recent dates are 1998.
I think those job ads are well out of date. In fact I think that be the ad I originally applied to and got accepted into the Fast family. Embarassed Cool Shocked Very Happy Confused Rolling Eyes (can't decide which smiley to use)
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I checked the Fast site and their contract and they seem to be up to date-- they quote salaries in ytl:

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English Fast will:

1 Pay a Turkish Lira salary of 1.000 YTL for inexperienced teachers, 1.400 YTL for teachers who have experience more than a year, 1.800 YTL for teachers who have experience more than three years (English Fast considers one year experience as full-time work and at least 20 hours per week of instruction).
The above rates are net payments; any applicable taxes will be paid by English Fast.
Additionally 400 YTL will be paid monthly for accommodation expenses. No extra payment will be made for furniture, household goods, decoration, etc.


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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't at Fast- I was at First. And actually, the Fast holidays are much nicer-- I only got a 9 month contract and one week off. Quite a shock to the system after 2 years in a kolej. I think Fast was offering a month off plus all national holidays.
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Teachers have an option to choose staying in school�s accommodation. In this case a furnished basic flat (below, you may find the explanation for a basic furnished flat) will be provided and the teacher will be responsible for paying any bill (except rent) and 50 YTL per month for the usage of furniture.


do they charge for the usage of course books?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It continues ...

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Basic Furnished Flat Includes:

A single or double bed according to the number of people who will stay in the flat


Could be a big bed for those with kids ...

Quote:
Carpet for living room and bedroom


What about door handles ... and glass in the windows ... or do you have to provide your own ...

And this is for the DOS ... class outfit ... Rolling Eyes
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And this is for the DOS ... class outfit ...
Don't mock. I used to be a DOS there. Windows were provided.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And was your bed a big one ...
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it was single. Sad
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
No, it was single. Sad


and did you pay 50 ytl for the furniture ?

or for the usage of coursebooks?
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: interested Reply with quote

The Dude is thinking of approaching E Fast next week.

Please feel free to PM me or leave a message right here.

TD
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say hi to Nazif Bey and his frog like wife.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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his frog like wife.
Thrifty, do you think she was a real professor doctor or she bought here degrees on the net?
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