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The Man Who Failed The CELTA Course Twice
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etx



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Unbelievers Reply with quote

Now what possibly motive would I, or anybody else, have to make up a story about a guy who failed the CELTA course twice?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that a rhetorical question ?
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konyoku wrote:
Well....I believe cutting hair requires a lot more skill than teaching EFL.


The way things are set up in EFL, how unfortunately true!!
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, let us never say that those who have a B.ed know how to teach. Most of my teachers were nose-bleedingly boring and clueless and so have been my colleagues, I am sad to say. Great teachers are rare; they possess a combination of intuitive understanding as to how to communicate, infectious enthusiasm, love for their craft as well as objective knowledge about education.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Planet of the morons

+ planet of the judgemental deconstructors

= lonely planet. QED. Arrow
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khmerhit wrote:
Planet of the morons

+ planet of the judgemental deconstructors

= lonely planet. QED. Arrow


Sorry. Didn't mean to defile your CELTA hanging from your lonely wall.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konyoku wrote:
Well....I believe cutting hair requires a lot more skill than teaching EFL.
Then I hope to god you never end up teaching anywhere near me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't follow you, stillnoshyte. Do you mean to say if I were teaching near you, you'd mistake me for a barber?

Personally, I take umbrage at your assertion that teaching ESL requires more skill than cutting hair. I am a retired barber and I should know. Both occupations require great skill in the art of B.S. (That acronym is not to be mistaken for a college degree, stillnoshyte.)

Your statement is an insult to NAAB! That's the North American Association of Barbers, mind you, and I demand that you retract your condescending assertions and get back to what you do best: teaching BSL!
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konyoku, could you recommend something nice for my friend then ...

"I want to look like Brad Pitt"
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konyoku wrote:
Do you mean to say if I were teaching near you, you'd mistake me for a barber?

and quite probably if you were cutting hair near me I'd mistake you for an English Teacher, given that you consider the ability to spout bullshite as being the prime requisite for either task
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your statements would suggest that you have trouble distinguishing between the two trades. If I had you in my barber chair, I'd cut your hair with my CELTA certificate and shave your legs with it as well. I'm proud of the paper cuts my CELTA can deliver for it serves no other useful purpose![/quote]
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I'm so glad that my comparison of barbers and EFL teachers was taken so seriously. Maybe barbers should be EFL teachers and vise versa since I've never had a barber who could tell the difference between a comb and scissors nor have I had a teacher who could tell the difference between a book and a pen.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konyoku wrote:
Your statements would suggest that you have trouble distinguishing between the two trades. If I had you in my barber chair, I'd cut your hair with my CELTA certificate and shave your legs with it as well. I'm proud of the paper cuts my CELTA can deliver for it serves no other useful purpose!
They suggest no such thing konyuko. If I remember correctly, and I do, it was the almighty konyuko, self-admiringly doubly qualified to spout bullshyte by dint of his experience in both professions, who appeared to be unable to distinguish the two:
konyoku wrote:
I don't follow you, stillnoshyte. Do you mean to say if I were teaching near you, you'd mistake me for a barber?

Personally, I take umbrage at your assertion that teaching ESL requires more skill than cutting hair. I am a retired barber and I should know. Both occupations require great skill in the art of B.S. (That acronym is not to be mistaken for a college degree, stillnoshyte.)


Oh dear another half-educated ignoramus spouting off about college degrees despite showing no evidence of possessing either the aptitude, or the application, ever to be able to obtain one, unless it was for sale in Thailand for 100 US.

I have no reason to doubt that you once were a perfectly adequate barber. Unfortunately your inability to read properly and to use simple logic would appear to preclude you from ever becoming a half way adequate English Teacher. Still, what would I know with my college degree and my many years of experience when konyoku has it sussed that all you need is bullshyte.

Mind you, you're very good at spouting bullshyte, which, as you say, is a prequisite for you when 'teaching'.
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khmerhit



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
La, la, etc.
I am the barber of Seville, make way! La, la, etc.
Quickly, it�s dawn and I must be in my shop! Quickly! La, la, etc.
Refrain: Ah, this is livin�
So much I�ve been given (2X)
For a barber who�s driven
To be the best! (2X)

Ah, bravo Figaro!
Bravo, bravissimo, bravo!
La, la, etc.
Luckiest man in the world, it is true, bravo! La, la, etc.
Luckiest man in the world, it is true (2X) La, la, etc.

Daytime or nighttime, I�m working full-time, I�m always moving, I never quit.



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angrysoba



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now what possibly motive would I, or anybody else, have to make up a story about a guy who failed the CELTA course twice?


The motive could be comedy. Which is perfectly accetable.

I'm not sure just how true the story is, and I'm not sure how important that is.

Obviously it's been written by someone who knows about CELTA, and even if the main protagonist was a real person the author has clearly put alot of words in their mouth. To think he would say so many of those things without any irony at all is difficult to believe.
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