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Doyle



Joined: 05 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanS wrote:
Theres nothing in the American capitalist mouthpieces, the New York Times or CNN.


Wow. Where do you live??? Do you actually read this paper and listen to this channel? They are the friends of your buddy Castro.
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doyle wrote:
RyanS wrote:
Theres nothing in the American capitalist mouthpieces, the New York Times or CNN.


Wow. Where do you live??? Do you actually read this paper and listen to this channel? They are the friends of your buddy Castro.


It was a response to:

Guy Courchesne wrote:
You're gonna have to Google it since i was a Mexican TV broadcast. I'm sure there's a story somewhere. Maybe the Cuban communist mouthpiece Gramma has it up.



Do you read more then one post at a time?

And no CNN and the New York Times are not friendly to Cuba, they consider it a Dictatorship, where dissidence is crushed, and the people are starving.

An article once and awhile considering the Embargo is unjust is not friendly with my "buddy" Castro, its empirical evidence backed by all but 4-3(Usually 1-2 nations with less than 100,000 people, Israel and the United States) UN member states. After 15 straight years in a row about 179 of countries vote against the Embargo and even with incredible worldwide outrage against the Embargo, it is is a short blurb on page 12 going basically saying "Yes the UN voted against it. But lets talk about problems in Cuba."

Really you should read the Newspaper more Often.

It will also make reports about how Cuba is a "Terrorist Nation" having never commited an attack of terrorism since and being attacked by "good freedom loving dissidence" who blow up hotels and Airplanes, work with US sponsored invasions, and commit numerious assassination attempts on the leader Cuba. Yes, this is indeed a very pro-Cuba press. There was no condemnation that the US is allowing Posada, the Cuban born terrorist who blew up a Cuban Airline that killed 73 people and bombed hotels all accross Cuba to walk freely in the United States, Cuba was just making "Alleged Statements" about him (through he did admit it on a Television station in Florida) on page 12 again.

Perhaps the news is Pro-Cuba in your mind because they acknowledge Cuba exists? Well whatever.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There. My report on Cuba. Found a new way to be a journalist.

http://www.innovative-english.com/cuba.htm
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy,

Either you're a) sick in bed today (like me Crying or Very sad ) or b) things are a little slow at work lately! Laughing

Glad to see you're enjoying the wonders of Flash! Wink
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khmerhit



Joined: 31 May 2003
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Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I wanna make on of those flash things for Cambodia.

CAMBODIA---BESIDES THE FRUIT MILKSHAKES AND THE PALM TREES AND THE MUSIC AND PEOPLE AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE TEMPLES AND THE EXCELLENT STANDARD OF LIVING FOR FOREIGNERS--

IT SUCKS BIG TIME.

OH, sorry wrong forum. exit stage left.... Arrow

Very strange thing, incidentally, i met some young american guys
wearing tuxedoes one nite--they were about twenty five years old, looked like young reublicans on holiday,
and they were on a mission to garner support from the cambo govt for this new country they were setting up on an island -i thingk they said an island -- sold by
the cubans to the US, run by the army, then decommissioned. Their fathers had sent them onthis mission. Sound weird? I thought so, but they were serious. I wonder if it was guantanomo bay? Funny old world we live in...its name was martini or something.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! That was directed at me... Laughing

Cuba's problems would be best solved by Cubans themselves. They staged one revolution...they could pull it off again.

Quote:
With almost no help them


You're right there. So-called sympathetic nations, like Canada and specifically, Canadians who appear to care, could do a lot to help. But, are they?
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Castro Reply with quote

The government could probably keep everything else the same, and get a lot more asssistance, aid and trade if only Castro left office. I know that's a big IF, and he would have to be forced out of office or die, probably. The fact that he is unwilling to do this says a lot about the true situation. I doubt if he is even grooming anyone to be his replacement. Feel free to correct me RyanS! Wink
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thelmadatter



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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: end of Castro Reply with quote

I agree that the exit of Castro in one way or another would do a lot to change how the US deals with Cuba. After all, he is the guy who managed to give us the finger any number of times and "get away with it". Why else am I, as an American, prohibited from going to Cuba but OK to go to China and to the USSR when it existed? Sure aint a cuestion of communism or dictatorship or any "threat" a nation might be against the US... its pure "face"

Ive lost track the number of times that the US govt predicted Fidel's ouster or death. However, I do have this theory that Fidel will not only stay in office as long as he is alive... but he will find some way to become immortal .... just to piss off the US more (that's a joke to those with no sense of humor - while I do not like Castro's policies or how he runs the country, I got to admit and admire the fact that he does have chutzpah!)
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If thats the way they operate that is ridicilious, being angry at one individual so all of Cuba suffers.

But really I will give them credit, thats not how they operate, its more so... "Government can only be run in this model, anything else will be considered anti-freedom/democracy/genocidal/terrorist, so any actions directed against it is not against the law."


And when government is run in a their model and they find that they start developing their infrastructure and they are part of the third world they are also evil, like Haiti or Panama. Or if you are rivaling our strenght you are evil.

anyways life sucks so fight.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: idiocy Reply with quote

Right....

Name me one country that has never done anything idiotic.
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya i know you're not really political nor is half the board. Whatever, people die and you wanna make silly comments like "Name one country that hasn't done anything idiotic".

Don't bring this off topic, if you want to talk about random stuff goto china off-topic.
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Successor Reply with quote

The last I heard was that Fidel's nominated successor is his brother Raul, who is currently head of the armed forces. Assuming the regime survives Fidel's demise, there may well be a succession of Communist Party octogenarians, rather like the post-Stalin Soviet Union.
Regarding economic policy, my money's on a Vietnam-style transformation, but the Blockade will continue until Uncle Sam and the Miami Mafia get their greedy hands on the property they lost in 1959.
For the time being, the White House is more worried by Chavez and Morales. The emergence of an independent Latin American trade bloc (independent of US control) would be a major blow to US power and prestige in Latin America. Here's hoping it's a big success.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The emergence of an independent Latin American trade bloc (independent of US control) would be a major blow to US power and prestige in Latin America. Here's hoping it's a big success.


Very Happy I'll drink to that! (Drinking locally produced products, of course...)

Justin
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here, here!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The emergence of an independent Latin American trade bloc (independent of US control) would be a major blow to US power and prestige in Latin America. Here's hoping it's a big success.


Such a trade bloc has a lot of hurdles to surmount first. The very first one would be to find a way to not see things as US vs U.S. in creating a bloc. Anything like an expanded Mercosur would have to be internally viable in regional trade and not simply be a vehicle with which to trade with the US. If not, then it will always make more economic sense for an individual Latin American country to seek bilateral trade agreements than waste energy on a bloc that doesn't mean anything beyon symbolism.

China, perhaps, affords some Latin American countries an interesting opportunity. There lies a chance for both mutually beneficial trade agreements and a way to stick a thumb in Uncle Sam's eye, if that is a priority.
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