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Help!! I can't get my money out of Turkey!

 
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jellybell



Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Help!! I can't get my money out of Turkey! Reply with quote

I'm from the US, an I have two banks that I use, one is a credit union, the other is a big chain bank. Anyways, I need to transfer money into these accounts but I can't seem to find a Turkish bank that still uses routing numbers to send money, only SWIFT or IBAN numbers. I know that the United States doesn't use IBAN numbers and SWIFT (probably won't work for either of my bank accounts Stateside) usage is very limited at this point. I really don't want to use Western Union if at all possible as it won't go into my account, and it will be an even bigger mess if I try to have someone on the other end take care of it.

What do other US and other expats do???
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molly farquharson



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i send money every month with Koc Bank to a credit union in the US. For the SWIFT code, use the routing number. I am not sure what IBAN is, but just this week I told the bank person just to write my acct number. The money always gets there. BTW, I pay a fee to the bank and somewhere in cyberspace more money is taken out.

Failing that, transfer your money to Citibank or HSBC and see if that works. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The International Bank Account Number (IBAN) is an international standard for numbering bank accounts. It was originally adopted by the European Committee for Banking Standards, and was later adopted as ISO 13616:1997. The IBAN consists of a two letter ISO 3166-1 country code, followed by two check digits, and up to thirty alphanumeric characters for the domestic bank account number, called the BBAN (Basic Bank Account Number). It is up to each country's national banking community to decide on the length of the BBAN for accounts in that country, but its length must be fixed for any given country. A unique identifying code for the bank, of a fixed length and at a fixed position, is required to be contained in the BBAN. However, it is left up to the national banking communities to determine its length and position within the BBAN, so long as it is constant for each country.

When stored electronically, the IBAN is not to be broken up by spaces; but when printed on paper, it is to be expressed in groups of four characters, with the last group of variable length.

The IBAN was developed to help improve the payments system within the European Union. Customers, especially individuals and SMEs, are frequently confused by differing national standards for bank account numbers. While the system is capable of being used for routing purposes, it cannot at present be used to do so since the IBAN has not been widely adopted outside of Europe, and the ECBS expects that the process of adoption may take five to ten years. Until then, it is necessary to continue to use the current ISO 9362 Bank Identifier Code or BIC system in conjunction with the IBAN in order to ensure proper routing.
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jellybell



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the routing number should be enough for SWIFT transactions? I'll try again then now. Did you have to add two zeros, as a SWIFT code is 11 rather than 9 digits?

Yeah, I already researched IBAN for myself, and it definetely isn't anywhere where I need it to be.
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jellybell



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, tried again and no dice. I'm trying to do this on-line, so I think that this may be part of the problem, but because Garenti has this fancy on-line system that they're so proud of, it's really expensive to do it in person, like 100ytl or so.

How bad are the fees with Koc, how's the staff (English speaking?), assitance, waiting lines, Molly?

I'm more than willing to switch banks if need be, I've been tring to get this done non-stop for the past week, and on and off for the past month! UGH.
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
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Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the routing no as the SWIFT no for an online transfer (Garanti) but it wouldn't work because the routing no is one digit too many.

But my credit union just expanded somehow, and I haven't tried it recently...
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molly farquharson



Joined: 16 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe call/email your bank in the US to see if they have different numbers. I will e-mail mine but I know the old numbers I have have worked for 8 years. Koc charges $30 and then some lira, maybe 15, I forget. I would guess that you could find one English-speaking person and most branches. There's one at my branch, but I do my business in Turkish.

Good luck-- it shouldn't be so hard.
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Java



Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got 2 ATM cards for the same Garanti account and Fed-Exed one to my daughter. She withdraws cash from my Turkish account and deposits it into my U.S. account every month. Not all banks will give you 2 cards (Koc is one of them) but Garanti will.
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jellybell



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Molly, I would really appreciate if you would do that. I've been pretty frusterated with all of this, but it's just all the uncertainty at this point that's really driving me crazy.
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molly farquharson



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i e-mailed my credit union and they don't have an IBAN number. However, I use the routing number as theSWIFT code and use my account number as the IBAN number. It works every time, including this past week.
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jellybell



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulous Molly, I'll give that a go then and see if it works out, I really appreciate you contacting your bank for me and such...
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