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Salary- When do you ask how much?

 
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guru



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:36 am    Post subject: Salary- When do you ask how much? Reply with quote

Before the interview?

During the interview?

After the interview?

Many jobs advertise positions without stating salary or holidays. When is it most appropriate to ask and how?

Any tips?
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bnix



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:41 am    Post subject: Salary Reply with quote

In my opinion,I would not be bashful at all about asking about salary.After all, it is one of the most important things,along with housing,working conditions,etc.
If you actally have a personal or phone interview,I would not ask it as the first question,but I surely would make sure I knew what they were going to pay me.Why waste time with some rigamarole to find out later the salary is insufficient?
About those places that do not list salary or say something like"competitive salary"(competitive with what?), I would be very leery of those.At least some of them are trying to con you into working at a semi-volunteer position.They are not paying diddly but do not want to come right out and state that because they do not want to scare away potential applicants.
In addition to the salary, I would make sure I knew exactly what the housing setup would be.There are other important considerations too, but those are certainly important.
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Sid



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask at the outset, then follow up their reply with "Well goodness!, that is a lot! I'm sure I can see myself working extra-hard for that amount..." or words to that effect.
Smile

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Shonai Ben



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the interviewer asks you if you have any questions,that is when you should ask about the salary.I always feel that if you ask before that you are only interested in the money and nothing else.I have been both the interviewer and the interviewed,and to the interviewer,the salary should be discussed last.That is my take on the situation.
Cheers. Cool
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Cobra



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before the end of the conversation you need to know how they value you.
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Corey



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you get on the plane!!!

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guru



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks all for the tips. very useful indeed!!!
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Cobra



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be candid. Ask up front. Tell them you are only in it for the money so how much are they offering?
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Sid



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised to see this troll still on board.

If you ask at the outset you'll be much more receptive to conditions, or not, they then offer. Get it out of the way and talk about something more interesting, or blow them off. Time is money (To them).

Squid.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Reply with quote

A Word of Warning

Knowing what your salary is is not enough. If you are headed somewhere you have never been you need to have some idea of the cost of living. And what other benefits are included ?

But really you need an idea of how much you will SPEND, not just what you will earn.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are only vaguely interested in the job, ask right away.
If the job is intriguing and the money is not as much of an issue, ask at the end of the interview. Don't be shy about asking, it is an important issue, especially for a job overseas. However, ask about the benefits and perks because that could add up to a lot.
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Sid



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunaru: Ever see a Korean count money Question

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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that you should be pretty direct about asking about salary and conditions - there are too many cowboys in the EFL business so you don't want to walk away from an interview without getting things straight. However, I also agree that it's best left until the "Do you have any questions for us?" stage at the end of the interview. More professional and polite.
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Cobra



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just thoroughly disgusted with all of the serious attempts to respond to this absolutely stupid post.

Who in their right mind applies for any job without knowing what it pays?

Get real people!
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guru



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cobra wrote:
I am just thoroughly disgusted with all of the serious attempts to respond to this absolutely stupid post.

Who in their right mind applies for any job without knowing what it pays?

Get real people!


Surprised Cobra, are you serious? Some of the best jobs don't mention pay in their ads (it is asumed to be very good). I got my present job of $1800 a month plus accommodation from an advert that did not inform me of the wages. there are plenty of jobs that pay twice that too!!!!!!!!!!!
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