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shuize



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I'm lucky enough to be accepted by GEOS, I'll be sure to make use of the free Japanese lessons they offer. The best part about it is that I'll be able to take it within the course of my workday. Can't beat that imo.


Free Japanese lessons? Why do I imagine this:

Jazz1975: "OK, I'm ready for my free Japanese lesson."

GEOS Staff: (Points outside) "There you go."
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Squire22



Joined: 06 Jul 2005
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Location: Shizuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall be living and working in Izunokuni shi in Shizuoka ken, in Nirayama town near neighbouring Kanami city apparently.

Anyone else in the area/been to the area? Any thoughts on it?

3 days to get ready for all this hasn't really left me much time to learn the katakana or hiragana just yet, it's a long flight though..... Smile

Cheers
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have no problem at all. When I first came to Japan, the only Japanese Iknew was judo techniques and sushi.
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Jazz1975



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
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If I'm lucky enough to be accepted by GEOS, I'll be sure to make use of the free Japanese lessons they offer. The best part about it is that I'll be able to take it within the course of my workday. Can't beat that imo.


Free Japanese lessons? Why do I imagine this:

Jazz1975: "OK, I'm ready for my free Japanese lesson."

GEOS Staff: (Points outside) "There you go."


Excuse me?! Why would you say something like that?
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz1975 wrote:

Excuse me?! Why would you say something like that?


Because you have 120 million Japanese teachers right outside the front door.

Can't get better input than simply talking to people you meet. Thats the way i learnt, not in a classroom.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz1975 wrote:
Excuse me?! Why would you say something like that?


And because it wouldn't be the first time promised "free" language lessons don't materialize.

Your Japanese lessons may end up being a nod to the front door where, just outside, you are "free" to listen to lots and lots of Japanese.
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Jazz1975



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
Jazz1975 wrote:
Excuse me?! Why would you say something like that?


And because it wouldn't be the first time promised "free" language lessons don't materialize.

Your Japanese lessons may end up being a nod to the front door where, just outside, you are "free" to listen to lots and lots of Japanese.


Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Well, first things first...I need to get in first before this even becomes an issue Very Happy .
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can learn your hiragana and katakana in a total of about 6hrs spread over three days for each. I know. I did it. Do a search for Learning the Hirigana for the method. I forget the author (though I remember the kana).

The kanji are going to be fun though...
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MrCAPiTUL



Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Location: Taipei, Taiwan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a good resource site to begin with, try here:

http://www.thejapanesepage.com

Very useful. I think it will serve you well.
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FuzzX



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not screwed at all. You`ll probably meet more people not knowing any japanese. You can get women to take you out to `teach you japanese`.
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luckyloser700



Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll say it again: Get a Japanese girlfriend or boyfriend. Who cares if you end up speaking like a member of the opposite sex? It doesn't matter if someone thinks you're gay if all you're trying to do is order at the local izakaya. If you plan on being here for awhile and mastering the language, you'll get around to making friends with members of both sexes and will learn how to speak accordingly.
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Willy_In_Japan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I'm lucky enough to be accepted by GEOS, I'll be sure to make use of the free Japanese lessons they offer. The best part about it is that I'll be able to take it within the course of my workday. Can't beat that imo.


I worked for GEOS. The lessons are given by the JET (Japanese English Teacher) and only if they can fit you in. Unfortunately, you will probably be so busy you won't actually want to take the time to take the lesson.

Some JETs are not too keen to give you lessons. I heard of some essentially asking "What do you want to learn?". There is no 'course'...if you are lucky, they will use a book like 'Mina no Nihongo' but you won't get far until your 20 lessons (the maximum allowed) are up.

GEOS gives you a very good book called Japanese in 10 mins a day. I learned more out of that book than from the JET.

I would suggest that you ask them to simply role play practical situations. Like, ordering in a restauranat.......asking if you have product X, or where it is.........asking 'does this train go to Akihabara" or 'Does it stop at Kita Senju?" or similar things.

One more thing....at GEOS, they literally threaten to fire you if you even say 'Sayonara'.at work....it doesnt matter if you are listening to an entire conversation in Japanese between the students and the JET.......you arent allowed to even say 'So desu ne!' .....I learned more Japanese in one month at an Elementary school as an ALT than I did in a year at GEOS.

I did learn some GEOS buzz words in Japanese like "Kihondosa" though Wink
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy_In_Japan wrote:
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If I'm lucky enough to be accepted by GEOS, I'll be sure to make use of the free Japanese lessons they offer. The best part about it is that I'll be able to take it within the course of my workday. Can't beat that imo.
Wink


Excuse me for noticing, but a JET is a native Japanese who is trained to teach English to junior high school students for their examinations. Many JETs can hardly even speak English.

He is not a trained teacher of Japanese, even if he is a native speaker. How much does the JET know about teaching Japanese to foreigners? About as much as the average GEOS teacher knows about teaching English to japanese.

You are better off learning from the girlfriend or out of the book in my opinion.
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Willy_In_Japan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excuse me for noticing, but a JET is a native Japanese who is trained to teach English to junior high school students for their examinations. Many JETs can hardly even speak English.

He is not a trained teacher of Japanese, even if he is a native speaker. How much does the JET know about teaching Japanese to foreigners? About as much as the average GEOS teacher knows about teaching English to japanese.

You are better off learning from the girlfriend or out of the book in my opinion. "



Please excuse me for speaking in "GEOS SPEAK". Wink

In my BOE, the Japanese English teacher is called a JTE........your mileage may vary.

In GEOS, however, they have NETs and JETs.....'Native English Teacher" which teaches "Sprint 6, Sprint 7, and Sprint 8" as well as other Higher level "Active" text books.

The "Japanese English Teacher" is a Japanese native who teaches up to "Sprint 5" and basically handles the low level learners at GEOS using both English and Japanese in the classroom. The NET on the other hand, is supposed to teach exclusively in English....even with difficult concepts like "sarcasm' they wont even let us say 'hiniku' for example to save us pulling our hair out trying to explain it to someone who really should still be a 'JET' student.

You are right.......the JETs may or may not be good teachers. The same could be said for the NETs. I am sure most people who get hired by GEOS tend to take their role seriously and try hard to do the job to the best of their ability. However, a lot of it is on the job training. I had a lot of military instruction, so I wasnt a total novice at teaching, but I admit, I am a LOT better now than when I started teaching English.

The theory is that the JET takes his or her teaching skills and applies it to teaching the NET Japanese. BTW, you are also required to teach the JET and the Manager lessons in addition to your classes. I don't think they count as 'teaching hours' either. I guess the point that I am really making is that these promised Japanese lessons are really nothing to get excited about. There are 20 lessons, no cirriculum, and are not taught by Japanese language teachers.
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