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Omeo



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Issues at home? Reply with quote

Hey, guys. Listen, I'm still planning on teaching English abroad as a life-long career after I get out of college, but I'm thinking about the long run and part of me wonders how long a person can keep this up. It seems to me that there will likely be times when I'll want to, or have to, come back and live in the states for a while, but right now I don't really intend to stay here, y'know what I mean? I even plan to retire abroad. My questions are, how long do you guys think a person can do this kind of work? What do you do for a job if you want to, or have to, come back and live at home for a while? What do you do when your parents start developing medical problems with age and you want to be there for them? I'm determined to do this for the rest of my life, but I'm thinking about the possible family issues I may have to deal with back home. I don't want to completely abandon my family and leave my sisters holding the bag when it comes time to deal with things like whether or not mom or dad needs to go to an assited living facility. I'm also thinking about what kind of temporary jobs a person can do if they have to come home for more than a month or so. Say I need a year or more away from teaching to deal with problems at home. I'll probably want to return to teaching, but what do I do while I'm at home? What kind of employer is looking for someone with our experience who doesn't mind hiring someone who's probably not gonna stick around for much more than a year? It seems like there's plenty of summer jobs out there, but it just seems like any summer job you get is going to expect you to devote your full attention to your job and not give you a lotta time to deal with any issues you came home to deal with. Again, I'm not backing out of the idea of teaching, I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to deal with any problems that might arise at home, y'know? Thanx in advance for your thoughts and advice.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Issues at home? Reply with quote

Omeo wrote:
how long do you guys think a person can do this kind of work? What do you do for a job if you want to, or have to, come back and live at home for a while? What do you do when your parents start developing medical problems with age and you want to be there for them?

1) There are plenty of people in this forum who have been TEFLing for many years. It depends on the person: some people have had enough after one or two years in a foreign land, while others thrive and stay for the rest of their lives.

2) Yeah, this is a problem. If you're relatively young, it's easy to come back to your home country and find work. As you get older, you're less likely to want to (or be able to) return 'home' and work your way up the corporate ladder. That's why a lot of folks overseas eventually earn a Masters; it gives them the magical paperwork needed to get better-paying positions, and to have a chance at teaching back 'home'.

3) I worry about #3 also. My folks are in their late 50s/early 60s, so this is going to become a problem in maybe another 10 or 15 years. But the way I see it, I have four siblings back 'home' to help my parents should they need it, so it's not as strong a concern to me as it might be to someone with a smaller family.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't plan your life to far ahead- if you feel now that you want to TEFL all you life, then all that means is that you feel that way now.

But until you're doing it, you don't really know- life has a way of surprising us.

About how to make a living back home, it depends on a lot of things. What are you good at, and what do you like doing? If you're a career teacher, get an MA, and teaching back home is a natural possibility.

To make the most of however long you spend abroad, learn some languages- the last time I was working at home, and it's been a while, I found my Spanish to be in serious demand. (Hospital interpreting can be pretty good short term work, and a lot of agricultural companies need people to communicate with all the migrant workers. Even telemarketing is beginning to look for other languages.)

Justin
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aging parents is a major issue. Both of my parents have passed away since I have been overseas. Both were quite difficult to deal with - but I never felt that my parents wanted me to pull up stakes and post a death watch.

How your siblings deal with your absence and family responsibilites, not only at that time but at other times of family stress can be an issue also.
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually 28 right now. After high school, I went to college for a couple years, dropped out and moved to San Diego for a year and a month, joined the Army for four years, and came back to college when I got out. I don't graduate for another year. By the time I get to my first TEFL job, I could be 30. Guess I'm kind of a late bloomer.

Yeah, it sounds more and more like getting an MA is a good idea. I don't think I wanna do that right now, though. I feel like I'm too old to still be in school. I wanna get out there and join the adult world. I don't mind going back to school later, though. Is it hard to earn a decent MA on the road? Would I have to come back home for that?

I guess my sisters and I can handle my parents when the time comes. But, like I said, part of me feels like I'm leaving them holding the bag when it comes to this. But then, we'd mostly be handling it by phone even if I lived in the states, so what difference does it make if I'm out of the country? Part of my concern is that they've had a harder time getting along with our father than I have and they'll probably be more reluctant to deal with him and want me to do it.
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Mira



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our paths have some similarities. I graduated from college and then spent 6 years in the army. I took a job in the private sector when I got out and have been doing this for 6 years. About six months ago, I decided to make a change and started working on my CELTA. I'm in the process of finishing it up and putting together my plan to move sometime early next year. By the time I start my first TEFL job, I'll be 35.

I've had similar thoughts about what I'll do if / when I decide to move back to the U.S. I have 2 bachelor's degrees but would either need to get a Master's degree, or at a minimum become licensed to teach here in the US. The School for International Training offers a Master of Arts in Teaching (MAT) that looks pretty interesting. I talked to some of the professors, students, and former students at the TESOL conference in Tampa two weeks ago, and was surprised and reassured when I saw that their students appear to be late 20s / 30ish. This gives me some faith that if I choose to go back to school to get an advanced degree, I won't be the only 'old lady' in the class!
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omeo, Im what you would call a 'lifer' teaching in Japan. Came here at 23 and still doing it 20 years later. I can not speak for other countries but have recently been through the process of deciding whether to relocate (Japanese wife is moving to Australia with kids, long story) and Im originally from New Zealand. My dad died while I was in Japan after a long bout with cancer.


Yes you can make a career in TEFL, raise families, buy houses (in US and in your host country and even move around. I know several people who have taught in four or five countries. I have a pension plan and own real estate back home. Last time home was 3 years ago.




Omeo wrote:
I'm actually 28 right now. After high school, I went to college for a couple years, dropped out and moved to San Diego for a year and a month, joined the Army for four years, and came back to college when I got out. I don't graduate for another year. By the time I get to my first TEFL job, I could be 30. Guess I'm kind of a late bloomer.


30 is still considered to be quite young for teaching TEFL. I know teachers in their 50's and 60's. the young college kid thing is a marketing gimmick dreamed up by language companies as they want fresh, clean cut and young teachers rather than an old hack. I will be 43 this year by the way.


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Is it hard to earn a decent MA on the road? Would I have to come back home for that?


You can earn degrees by distance learning or by branch campuses of American universities. I got my degree from a US university based in japan, and got the whole degree without leaving the country. there are a few good programs in the US (SIT, Shenandoah) but the better ones are British or UK programs)


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I guess my sisters and I can handle my parents when the time comes. But, like I said, part of me feels like I'm leaving them holding the bag when it comes to this. But then, we'd mostly be handling it by phone even if I lived in the states, so what difference does it make if I'm out of the country? Part of my concern is that they've had a harder time getting along with our father than I have and they'll probably be more reluctant to deal with him and want me to do it.


There is no easy answer here. My brothers and sisters were at home and my dad was in and out of a hospice. When the end came it was two weeks before end of term and I could not leave the country with exams and tests coming up etc. It would have thrown the whole term into turmoil. As it was i didnt go home.

If you are overseas there is very little practical you can do except keep in touch by email or using IM etc, and perhaps be prepared to fly home at a moments notice. Depending on ones family they may not want you to put your life on hold or they want you to carry your weight. its only a call that YOU can make.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mira wrote:
I've had similar thoughts about what I'll do if / when I decide to move back to the U.S. I have 2 bachelor's degrees but would either need to get a Master's degree, or at a minimum become licensed to teach here in the US. The School for International Training offers a Master of Arts in Teaching (MAT) that looks pretty interesting. I talked to some of the professors, students, and former students at the TESOL conference in Tampa two weeks ago, and was surprised and reassured when I saw that their students appear to be late 20s / 30ish. This gives me some faith that if I choose to go back to school to get an advanced degree, I won't be the only 'old lady' in the class!


I have a friend now who is in the SIT program in Vermont and is quite enjoying it. he is early mid 30's, married and left his wife in Japan to do the degree

I think if you want to work back in the US you need to be properly qualified and a masters would be absolute minimum. Factor in doing a Masters at some point in your career if you want to get work. Im not an Americann, but I believe a lot of work tends to be very casual and piecemeal and few benefits such as pension etc.

Im in a distance program now at the age of 43 so you are never too old!!
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