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Tom Highway



Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Police Reply with quote

This is really getting old Mad. Just got stopped today, AGAIN, for absolutely no reason at the train station. The policeman asked me for my card. I pointed to the train departure board and explained that my shinkansen left in 3 minutes. He apologized but insisted on seeing my card. He and his partner spent about 5 minutes asking me various questions...where I lived, where I worked, where I was going, why I was going there, etc. I was extremely vague about everything (except for my apartment, which is listed on the back of my card). Anyway I wound up missing my train. As my card was returned I asked the cop why he stopped me. He said that every foreigner in Japan is responsible for showing their card on request. I'm fairly certain he could tell I was pissed, so me tried to make some polite small talk..."I have ever been to Canada". I replied "subarashii" and walked away.

Anyway this is like the 5th time this has happened. I've gotta be honest, I hate Japanese cops. I think they're the about the most useless people I've encountered. I have a lot of respect for N. American cops...yeah they have to enforce petty laws but if something ever hit the fan I'd rely on them for help. These little dorks, from what I've seen, do nothing other than crack down on the flagrant bike-light infractions, saunter around the entertainment area in groups of twenty and harass people.

Ok, vent over. Can anyone provide me with some factual information about whether or not these glorified mall guards can stop a foreigner for absolutely no reason. Anecdotes are appreciated but I'd really like a link to a legal site or something similar.

Thanks
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Police Reply with quote

Tom Highway wrote:
Ok, vent over. Can anyone provide me with some factual information about whether or not these glorified mall guards can stop a foreigner for absolutely no reason. Anecdotes are appreciated but I'd really like a link to a legal site or something similar.

Thanks


Here is what Professional activist Debito says about police checkpoints and the legal stuff.




Hope this helps
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Tom Highway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Highway wrote:
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!


Now go and bust some copper ba-lls.


Laughing
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fox1



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's never happened to me.

But I have been stopped on my bike 27 times.

However, [OK I used to think that was discrimination] I now think that is basically because my bike doesn't have a lock.

I know many foreigners who've never been stopped (bicycle-wise)
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fox1 wrote:
that's never happened to me.

But I have been stopped on my bike 27 times.

However, [OK I used to think that was discrimination] I now think that is basically because my bike doesn't have a lock.

I know many foreigners who've never been stopped (bicycle-wise)


when I was at KIT and my house was 100 meters from the school front gate I got stopped by cops standing on opposite sides of the street (this is no highway, but a side street leading to a university) by cops both coming and going.

they flashed the light on the registration and radioed for the registration ID. These guys stood out on this quiet corner for about 2 hours.

Bosozoku? and speeding obatarians on scooters? what are they?
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nickelgoat



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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angrysoba



Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Location: Kansai, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is it with cops and bosozoku?

I've been told by various people that they can't do anything as most bosozoku are underage and can't be convicted. But why can't the police impound their bikes?

Recently they've been driving round my house at three in the morning grinning inanely as they rev their hairdryers. I'd love to throw a bucket of water on the little F#@$ers only that would make ME the criminal.

I once asked one of my students (a 60 year-old businessman) what he thought of them, he said "They're just showing their young spirit." I wonder if the cops are as doe-eyed about these w@nkers!
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't been stopped by the police in a long time. But like the OP, the last time it happened just outside a train station while I was in a hurry and the cop was an ass about it.

Cop: "Hey, you on the bike ..."

Me: "Yes?"

Cop: "Stop ..."

Me: "I'm sort of in a hurry."

Cop: "This will only take a second. Where'd you buy that bike?"

Me: "[Shop Name]."

Cop: "Where's that?"

Me: "[City name]."

Cop: "Where do you live?"

Me: "[Different city name]."

Cop: "I thought you said you bought it in [1st city]."

Me: "I did."

Cop: "So where did you buy it?"

Me: "[1st city]."

Cop: "And where do you live?"

(Over and over)

I guess he thought of himself as the Japanese Sherlock Holmes and figured he'd try and trip me up somehow by asking the same questions over and over. Funny enough though, he never asked for my Alien Registration Card. But he did finally end the interview with a phrase that pissed me off.

Cop: (Pointing his finger at me) "Just be careful..."

Me: (Thinking to myself) Of what, A-shole? D*ckhead cops like you? Sure thing.
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Like a Rolling Stone



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the police in Japan are quite friendly. There was a fight I saw and then a group of police came. "Here comes trouble" I thought and then one persdon knocked a policeman's hat off. Shocked But he just reached down and picked it back up. I think in England or America the police would be really angry if that happened. But maybe the police shouldn"t be friendly Wink
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Hoser



Joined: 19 Mar 2005
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem with the cops before, then again I'm white.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

angrysoba wrote:
What is it with cops and bosozoku?

No kidding. Back home the cops wouldn't follow them for miles and miles making as much noise as the bikers asking them to stop, they'd just ram the cruiser into the back of the motorcycle and make it happen.

By the way, does anyone have a link to the video of the guy with a stick chasing off two armed Japanese policemen? I think it was from about a year ago.
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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here"s the article. Don't know where the video is:

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/archive/news/2005/03/20050302p2g00m0dm999000c.html
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I googled around and found a BBC article and video on it.

Article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4287899.stm#

Video:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/nb_wm_fs.stm?checkedBandwidth=nb&nbram=1&subtitles=hide&checkedMedia=asx&news=1&bbwm=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&nol_storyid=4290735

Funny.
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angrysoba



Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Location: Kansai, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that Shuize. Really funny.
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