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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 668 Location: performing in a classroom near you!
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| paulmanser wrote: |
Do not want to join the rat race of 9 to 5 in a office.
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How about 9-9 in a language school?  |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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As many others have said, with better qualifications come better jobs. I started out teaching EFL at 24 about 11 years ago. With my BA, Celta and esxperience I relaized that if this was to be a career I would need more qualifications. I just finished my masters so at this point I could teach anywhere in the world at pretty much any university where English is a foreign language. I support my wife and have 2 kids so I need more than your average language school salary.
No regrets for me. |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Run, don't walk, to a graduate degree - as the others have said.
TEFL can be financially rewarding AND professionally rewarding - but not at the lowest levels for the long term. |
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happy_me
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 174 Location: In the neighborhood of nirvana
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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ya is a good wat to go broke unless you get a MA in edu. and in some places its no use too here maybe 5% will pay you oner 1,500us
if you stay at EF style 800us max |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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ya is a good wat to go broke unless you get a MA in edu. and in some places its no use too here maybe 5% will pay you oner 1,500us
if you stay at EF style 800us max |
Uh . . . sorry, could you write that in English? |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1022 Location: Australia, previously China
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Its possibly some form of text talk, but like you I need an interpreter.
That's if there's anything to interpret. |
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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 629 Location: osaka
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I know language teachers in Japan, well to be honest they are not even teachers. Guys without degrees in their 40's and scrathing around trying to make a living. But the thing is............I would still rather be in their position than many of my graduate friends back "home".
Ask yourself, what do you really need to be happy? then ask if you can get the material side of it by teaching english? The answer is an easy yes IMO. The none material side? well, nothing beats living abroad in my book. |
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Boy Wonder

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| happy_me wrote: |
ya is a good wat to go broke unless you get a MA in edu. and in some places its no use too here maybe 5% will pay you oner 1,500us
if you stay at EF style 800us max |
A curious mixture of Spanglish and Jive talk......!!!!
If this guy is out there teaching then God help us all!!! |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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A life term of TEFL .. surely they'd only dish that out for the most heinous of crimes ...
And let's not forget the words of His Highness, Mohammed Ali ...
"A man who thinks the same aged 50 as he did aged 20 has wasted the last 30 years of his life" |
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william wallace
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: Dear paul... |
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mlomker

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 378
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Dear paul... |
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| The other process that pressures ESL as it exists is the development of voice recognition software. |
I've run across a couple schools, such as 'Perfect English', that use CALL systems for teaching English. This is an area that I find very interesting given my current background in computers/technology. I think there may be some opportunities there for technology-oriented FT's as well. |
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Miyazaki
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 635 Location: My Father's Yacht
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Dear Paul... |
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| You can always go home, but the question over time is; what will you be going home to? |
Nice way of putting it. |
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QatarChic
Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 445 Location: Qatar
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| Like one or two others on here I started out in TEFL aged 23 and am now 30 and still going strong & still loving it! To be honest, I can see myself doing it for the next few years. Hopefully when I complete my MA etc, it will open up new doors to others areas. I can't see TEFL dying out just yet, only because there's so much demand for it now, but who knows what the future will bring? |
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gugelhupf
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Not sure I would want to be sentenced to a life of TEFL, but maybe that's just because of my own definition of what 'TEFL' means. There is absolutely no reason why you can't enjoy a long career as an English teacher, however. Many of us teach English in regular schools, colleges and universities in countries all over the world just as native speakers of German, Spanish and Japanese do teaching jobs in our home countries.
Like other posters have said, entry-level jobs are great first jobs but most people move on to better things fairly quickly. |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| gugelhupf wrote: |
| ... maybe that's just because of my own definition of what 'TEFL' means. |
In my own mind, I simply don't think of the term "TEFL" only in the context of entry-level jobs. So on a thread such as this one, I wrote:
"Teaching English has many levels and contexts. Although the majority of jobs are in language schools and language companies, you do not have to restrict yourself to such (low-paying) jobs." |
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