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Lynn

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 696 Location: in between
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:41 pm Post subject: working Starbucks? |
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| What would you think if an ESL teacher worked at Starbucks? Is it a disgrace to the ESL teaching society? |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| No why? We all need to make ends meet and at times it means working somewhere or doing something we don't like. It is called making a living and ESL teaching is not exactly a high status job that everyone wants to reach. Am I missing something? Was this question posted as a jest and I fell for it? |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i know this much---if i dont get teaching work soon then i shall be jumping behind the counter.
i seem to get supply work only, as i did today, but am hoping for more. and so are a lot of others, i suspect....
Would you like any particular flavour, ma'am?
We have, mocha, mocha with a twist, Hawaiian Hazel, Vanilla Nut, Irish Cr�me, French Vanilla, Wasatch, Vienna, Colombian, Kenya, Park City, Mocha Java, Kona, Northwest, Royal Cup, Hawaiian hazel with a twist....... |
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SweetOne
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 109
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| No, it's not a disgrace to the ESL teaching society, but speaks volumes of the world economy. |
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dyak

Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 630
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mine's a French Vanilla... will you bring it over to me or just shout at me when it's ready?  |
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gerard

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Location: Internet Cafe
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I would call it a step up and doing more good in the world...although Starbucks is wanker hoi polloi coffee but that is another matter.
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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What would you think if an ESL teacher worked at Starbucks? Is it a disgrace to the ESL teaching society? |
Personally, I think it is a moot point. Your visa probably won't permit it anyway. A work visa for Humanities Specialist is described as follows:
Activities to engage in service that requires knowledge pertinent to jurisprudence, economics, sociology, or other human science fields. Activities to engage in service that requires specific ways of thought or sensitivity based on experience with foreign culture, such as interpreting, translation, copywriting, fashion design, interior design, sales, overseas business, information processing, international finance, design, or public relations and advertising based on a contract with a public or private organization in Japan.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/04.html#b1a
Starbucks work might fall into the category of "sales", but I'm no expert on these matters. To work legally at Starbucks, you would probably need a different type of visa. Not sure of this, but it just sounds logical to me.
Of course, if you have a working holiday visa, dependent visa, or spouse visa, this doesn't apply. |
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Lynn

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 696 Location: in between
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:10 am Post subject: |
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What would you think if an ESL teacher worked at Starbucks? Is it a disgrace to the ESL teaching society? |
Personally, I think it is a moot point. Your visa probably won't permit it anyway. A work visa for Humanities Specialist is described as follows:
Activities to engage in service that requires knowledge pertinent to jurisprudence, economics, sociology, or other human science fields. Activities to engage in service that requires specific ways of thought or sensitivity based on experience with foreign culture, such as interpreting, translation, copywriting, fashion design, interior design, sales, overseas business, information processing, international finance, design, or public relations and advertising based on a contract with a public or private organization in Japan.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/04.html#b1a
Starbucks work might fall into the category of "sales", but I'm no expert on these matters. To work legally at Starbucks, you would probably need a different type of visa. Not sure of this, but it just sounds logical to me.
Of course, if you have a working holiday visa, dependent visa, or spouse visa, this doesn't apply. |
Sorry for the confusion, Glenski. I meant a US citizen working at Starbucks in the states. |
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gerard

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Location: Internet Cafe
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| w anke r is on the censored list??? Crazy. |
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Roger
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