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[guangho]

I do not have holes in my socks.

[gaijinalways]

Just review a couple of points

North Americans working legally in Western Europe..did I misread this? As far as I know, it's next to impossible for Americans to do it, that is teach EFL in Western Europe. I do know that Canadians can sometimes get a working holiday visa, but　because the US doesn't have this as a reciprocal arrangement with any country, it's not available for Americans. Please correct me if I am wrong (and send me info pronto, please ).

Getting the qualifications to teach in an international school can be tough. For ESL it's possible, though many international schools want the regular subjects、as many of the students already speak/listen/read/write English at a satisfactory level. Because my undergraduate degree is in a non-regular high school subject (business), I'd have to go back to school to get a math degree, and then another Master's, which doesn't seem quite worth the pain (both mentally and financially). But if you can get it, hey why not, there are good gigs floating about. I've applied a few times, never got a bite (sniff, it must been the paper I used, right ).

[chrispy]

[quote="saint57"][2. I sleep on a mattress (no bedroom) in a one bedroom apartment and I commute an hour each way on public transit. I estimate my B.Ed will have cost me $30,000 by the time I finish.



Are you serious? $30,000 by the time you finish your B.Ed. My friend said its only about $6000 or so. And if you do a concurrent program at York or Queens, its free. But i'm also curious, which Uni are you in right now on the way to completing your B.ed?

[Justin Trullinger]

My info is anectdotal, as I haven't got the links- anyway, it's changing all the time. It's true that US citizens CAN work legally anywhere in Europe...with the proper visa.

Not too easy to get though. Some I've known were on spousal visas, others have a family connection that allows them to get EU passports, and work just like any EU citizen.

Or, the work visa does work. The general condition for it is that you have to provide a service that they cannot reasonably be expected to attain within the EU.

But there's a lot of discretion in how that rule is applied. I know people who have got it for specialized expertise, meaning advanced degrees in unusual specialties. I also know people who managed it based on the market need for "American English." SOme countries are much stricter than others- some less strict. To know what's possible in your preferred destination, you need to talk to people on the ground, in situations similar to yours. I have a friend in Germany who tells me that a lot of her colleagues are (legal) US citizens. It can be done- just keep checking and trying.

Justin

[saint57]

[saint57]

Double Post

Crispy, are you in the T.Dot? Ever go to Whiskey?

[chrispy]

Yes I am in Toronto lol. I never heard of Whiskey before. Did you make that up by any chance? Where is it anyways? haha too much call girl services for you won't do you any good.

[saint57]

Dude, what planet are you from? Whiskey a Go-Go in Toronto. 544 Rivermede Rd. Check it out! Peace

[JZer]

[gaijinalways]

Not too easy to get though

That's not quite what I meant, being married to a national of that country or having family connections in that country. Those are obvious no brainers for visas .

I mean serious jobs, most of the American s I know working overseas are in technical fields. As to teaching American knowledge related subjects, have tried for a few posts, pretty tough to get. That visa gets in the way of a lot.

[karinb]

I'm confused. May Americans work in an international school in Western Europe?

[guest of Japan]

[gaijinalways]

Yes, I have applied for a few jobs, and the schools can in some cases apply for your visa, but of course they would rather not have to, thus making it easier to hire someone already in Europe, preferrably with an EU passport.

[jammish]

[mlomker]