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[cluna]

I may have lost the $65 application fee. However, this forum has saved me from the loss of the additional $75 application fee, an illegal, and probably terrible summer experience. I found the ad for the English Summer Teaching Institute on the NABE website. Therefore I thought it was legitimate because I have been a member of NABE off and on for many years. I will write to NABE to find out if this is the same person. See a photo of Mary Jew:
http://www.nabe.org/about/board.html

cluna



Dear C.:

It is my pleasure to inform you that you have been
selected to participate in the summer exchange
program. Please see attached letter for information.

Please send in teh additional $75.00 fee (originally
$85) as required and a photo as well as your birthdate
(if you have not emailed it). Send the documents
along with check or money order to:

China Exchange-Mary Jew
P. O. Box 4832
Foster City, CA 94404

Thank you.

Mary

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To: cluna

I'm just looking at the stuff now, so I'll write back later in more
detail. Immediately I am suspicious of two things: her email address and the application fees.

I found another email addresses for Mary Jew in relation to language
education:
[email protected]

But here one Mary Jew Leung is a defendent in a court case:

Northern District of California Judges' Decisions Subject
...("Plaintiff")
against defendant Mary Jew Leung ("Defendant") on January 15, 1999.
Plaintiff appeared and was represented by Anne L. Keck, Esq.; ...
www.canb.uscourts.gov/canb/Documents.nsf/
0/7566d09600ee84b8882567300067cecc?OpenDocument - 13k -

More later

[HunanForeignGuy]

[cluna]

Dear HunanForeignGuy,

http://www.nabe.org/

The National Association of Bilingual Educators (NABE) is a respected professional organization. This ad was published on the NABE website: http://www.summerteaching.org/ I just checked and the ad still appears in the right hand corner of the page. I noticed that Mary Jew was the elected treasurer of NABE. I did not stop to send an email to NABE to see if this was the same Mary Jew conducting the China summer teacher exchange program.

I am definitely interested in working in China this summer. I do not know how to use the PM function yet. I will read about it tomorrow evening.

Thank you for all your help.

cluna

[China.Pete]

Assuming that your Mary Jew and Mary Jew Leung are one and the same person, an interesting story emerges. It would seem that the illustrious Mary Jew, having recently gone through Chapter 7 bancruptcy and no longer able to support herself with $1,000 cash advance checks from her credit cards each month, must try to achieve her customary $15,000 in (declared) annual income by collecting commissions from FTs (who might otherwise find such jobs for free). Indeed, your check, Cluna, seems to have gone into Ms Leung's personal bank account ("China Exchange-Mary Jew"). Clearly, soliciting foreigners to work in China on a tourist visa is a violation of Chinese immigration law. What's not so clear is that she's doing anything illegal under US law. For example, there would be nothing illegal in HunanForeignGuy (assuming he were currently residing in the US, and were so inclined) charging you $130 for hooking you up with something. That's just business, of a sort. Should you feel unduly put upon by the service provided you by Ms Leung, however, you could simply forward the appropriate email from her to the Chinese Consulate in San Francisco, together with a suitably naive prologue about how you think this might be a violation of Chinese immigration laws. Or you could just choose to chalk it up to doing your bit to help Ms Leung bounce back from bankruptcy.

[HunanForeignGuy]

[Ka`b ibn al-Ashraf]

I feel that HunanForeignGuy in his post on Thu May 04, 2006 at 10:05 am was overly reactionary.

I don't know about extreme. The emailer seemed to be interested in visiting China, even though it is a politically authoritarian state. I don't know about bigoted: never did the emailer speak unkindly of the Chinese people or their culture.

I just had a conversation the other day with an Australian colleague whose Chinese classmates in graduate school in Australia spoke of government informants in the classrooms. It's not so far-fetched. I don't know what the Tale of the Kiwis was supposed to prove, as the email quoted only seemed to refer to the overall situation.

The US government doesn't invite Chinese teachers to the US because the US doesn't believe it needs them. However, there is a special visa status to fill specialty jobs that are not being filled by US residents. These are typically technical.

The emailer - it is not a poster - doesn't claim to have ever been to China. The emailer only says that for cultural reasons Shanghai and Beijing would be the most interesting to him/her. The emailer never says that these are the market towns for teachers.

The emailer doesn't claim any financial expertise at all and the statements are qualified.

I am sincerely perlexed at what appears to be HunanForeignguy's need to attack this person who is only sharing impressions.

Of course, once Hunanforeignguy starts talking about the Middle East, well, I must quote him right back at himself here: "This posting is exceptionally extreme, biggoted and biaised!" To that I would add racist.

The venemous racist attacks on the entirety of a broad area of the Earth is intolerable and I believe violates the rules of this forum.

And to think, the only thing that emailer did was to suggest an area of the globe that offers well-paid work in colleges and universities for doctorate-holders. Well shame on him/her.

Why would Hunanforeignguy call it a "plant"? I guess, then, all suggestions are plants.

Pollution? Yes, the emailer did say that there was beautiful countryside. The emailer said many things about China that made him/her very curious. The emailer said that he/she wanted to visit China, but not work there, as he/she had never been impressed by the job offers. Was that his/her crime? Not to be impressed by the job offers there?

So what's with Hunanforiegnguy's explosion?

And his racist attack on the Middle Eastern countries and the people working there? What's up with that?

As an American teaching at a US-accredited major university in the Arabian Gulf, I am living high-on-the-hog (excuse the pork reference) financially. I have resident status (though the country isn't a "major power" as if that matters). I say whatever the heck I want as I teach Cinema, Literature, Critical Theory, and Composition. I live and work in a multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-cultural environment of laidback, nonconfrontational people who do not personally blame me for "the last 50 years" of US world domination both military and economic...not even for the domination of the British & French! "[T]hat crowd of people from the Middle East to which we in the West have been witness for most of the last 50 years," who are the people I live and work with here, all tell me "us Muslims, Christians and Jews are all the same; we believe in the same God and should not fight," but they never get their 5 seconds on TV. Fox News is much more of an "assault on Western Civilization."

So let's watch what we say about other cultures when discussing jobs in certain regions throughout the world. Like I said, I didn't read anything in the email posted above that was derogatory to Chinese culture or the Chinese people, so I don't understand the reactionary attack. He/she was at worst unimpressed with the job offers in China.