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vallillo1983 · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 194

NOVA OR SHANE!?!

GLENSKI TOLD ME TO ASK! LOL (sorry about caps!)

PAULH · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan

lalalateda · Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 72 Location: JAPAN

They are both big companies with lots of locations. You could end up somewhere good or somewhere crap. It's a gamble.

Khyron · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City

Neither pay for your flight over here, or back home again. Nor do they give you much of anything for a bonus at the end of a year. So, they are both crap.

earthmonkey · Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 188 Location: Meguro-Ku Tokyo

I understand that you want to make posts. But, please, enough of this kind of crap. I'm usually not negative, but really! Ask a real question or please refrain from posting here.

PAULH · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan

At the very least get the name of the school right in your heading.

Timuli · Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 51 Location: Saitama

I worked for Shane for 2 years. Salary was always on time, we got more holidays than most other eikaiwas, students were mostly good and fun to teach, we knew which school we would be teaching at each week (with exceptions of course), we could use extra materials in the lessons. Most complaints about working at Shane were about the managers (DOS). Downside? It's an business like any other big chain in Japan. So money comes first for them.

Over the years I've discovered that the people who complain the most about working at conversation schools are the ones who are fresh out of university and never had a real job before. Sure there are exceptions, but that has been my observation.

Would I do it again? Probably not. Do I regret it? Not at all.

Sour Grape · Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 241

Khyron · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City

According to some Shane teachers that I talked to on the weekend, the salaries, bonuses and vacations are all better than at NOVA. NOVA seems to be at the very bottom of the ESL barrel in Japan. If it gets you here, then that's fine. If anyone is planning on hanging around for more than a year though, I would think anyone who stays at NOVA to be insane.

Shane seems to reimburse their teachers for part of their flight. Plus, they promote 'real' English, not that American gibberish. Very Happy

poof · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 161

If you're going into something asking 'which is worse, this or that?' then it suggests that you must only have a purely negative mindset.

I thought vallillio had settled on Shane for the fall - have you changed your mind already? Shane must be getting nervous at your arrival Confused

As you have no experience of either, just settle for one, stick it out for a year, then form your judgements.

Personally, I'd opt for Shane over Nova purely owing to longer vacation and more predictable schedule. Otherwise, your students are pretty much of the same type in both of these places. For a first year, a large chain school is okay.

luckyloser700 · Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 308 Location: Japan

Khyron · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Tokyo Metro City

luckyloser700 · Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 308 Location: Japan

poof · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 161

Here is what somebody recently trawled up from the original poster of this thread and posted on the Hong Kong forum - it's funny: #

dreaming_saturn · Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 37 Location: Netherlands