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Forumosa Maoman



Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 22
Location: Lotus Hill

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miyazaki wrote:
TaoyuanSteve wrote:
I'll repeat what I said: Many things are possible here. Not all are completely within the rules. Miya, I'm sure you have known of people who have gotten work permits with less than what is required by the government here. These are exceptions, though, not the norm. I think someone is pulling the wool over the eyes of the authorities, either the employer, employeee or both. It might be that the employer is asserting that their employee has a four year degree. It might be that the authorities don't know any better. Somebody pulled some strings. Many things are possible. However, it is clear that the rule is for work permits for foreign English teachers.


Taoyuan Steve,

You are wrong - it is legal. No one has pulled any strings and the CLA hasn't made any mistakes.

The CLA grants ARC and work permits to diploma holders (one does not even need a TESOL certificate!) to teach EFL in Taiwan.

There are many people who only hold a diploma only and who are teaching legally in Taiwan.

I personally know people who are or have been in this situation.

I'm a school owner and have lived in Taiwan for 15 years. A two year diploma and 15NT will get you on a bus, but that's about it. I'd be happy if you were right because I'm sure there are many diploma holders who would make fine teachers, but unfortunately it just ain't so. Feel free to disbelieve me. Laughing
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SanChong



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maoman said:
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I'm a school owner and have lived in Taiwan for 15 years. A two year diploma and 15NT will get you on a bus, but that's about it. I'd be happy if you were right because I'm sure there are many diploma holders who would make fine teachers, but unfortunately it just ain't so. Feel free to disbelieve me.


Thanks Maoman for confirming what Clark, Steve, I and others have been saying for awhile now (all of whom are also directly involved in the ESL world).

I just hope that all this discussion didn't convince someone that the law was something different. I'd feel bad if someone bought a plane ticket based on such faulty information.

Miyazaki: Now that this issue is finished, would you mind telling us why you pursued it for so long? You must have known (at this point) what the law in Taiwan is, so why did you keep pushing this?
Did you go through an difficult situation yourself legally and wanted to put others through the same thing?
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twinkletoes



Joined: 05 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The forumosa forums have specific forums on marriage and parenting. Link in "so you have some questions" thread, first post. You might get some good info there.

Also, Turton's blog (link in forst post) tells a great deal about his experiences with having his children here. Might be worth a look or maybe not. But the pics are chaming. Very Happy
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend looking at Turton's blog for the children in Taiwan advice. Just remember that his own children have a Taiwanese mother and their situation is somewhat different than a foreign couple bringing their own school age children with them.
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