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lumber Jack · Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 91 Location: UK/ROK

The most important thing to know, I guess, is that you are not in the USA, and that it will be most frustrating and possibly fruitless to pursue your "rights". So, as the only newbie focused info-packed sticky up there, it isn't very helpful.

twinkletoes · Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

Lumber Jack,

Now that I know more about what your looking for, maybe forums rather than blogs are your best avenue. I had mentioned the parenting forum on forumosa for you - did you check there? They have a visa forum also, as well as a marriage forum.

Yes I am sure of my blog story. It's my own personal experience. I know people get ranty on the internet and blow off steam about their schools, but when you read a preson's blog, you can get a feel for what kind of person they are and whether or not the problems they're having are because of themselves or because of ther situation. Please don't waste time on this thread trying to stee people away from it. Sometimes blogs can be invaluable, sometimes forums are the best way to go. I don't care to argue about this any further.

Oh, and I don't work for Dave's and I'm not in charge of making threads stickies. I'm just trying to be helpful, and I don't think that's something that should be discouraged.

Moaman, thanks for adding a link to this thread. I wish more people would do this. If we kill the arguing and people add the good sources of info that they find here, maybe it will get stickied sooner or later or at least stay on the first page where people are likely to find it.

Cheers all, and good luck in your quest to make your time in Taiwan as suitable for your needs as it can be.

lumber Jack · Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 91 Location: UK/ROK

Yeah - put a sticky on this thread Mr.Kal-guk-su or whatever yer name is!

If you do, I'll go back and edit all my outrageous "blogs are not heaven sent" comments out, and replace them with very short and positive poems about "the isla formosa".

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

lumber Jack · Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 91 Location: UK/ROK

I've heard so many ESL teachers burble on about their "rights" - it doesn't stop people on this forum from making comments like "Taiwan is a country with third world standards of socio-economic development", which means that there will hardly be any. I've never known anyone pursue a successful legal case in the countries I've been in.

"Rights" are a very abstract thing. If the authorities don't always believe in them, then you shouldn't rely on them too much yourself. As a foreigner in Asia you get things done through relationships with people, usually, not through the courts.

I don't mean it is never done, and the longer you stay in a country, the more of a platform you have to do it. But newcomers are highly unlikely to benefit from that kind of advice. It sends the wrong mesage about the TEFL life. Well, its probably true that if Clark will put you up for a while and pay your fees you'll be OK. That's the point, really.

Yeah, Yeah, I don't know Taiwan so well. I suppose it is a legal paradise compared to Korea, with rich and confident newbie teachers eh? Anyways, this argument is all on the other thread anyway. Since no-one is chummy enough with the co-ordinators to make a new sticky, how about clearing that spat off and putting some useful links up?

BigWally · Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject:

bump....to get this back on page one....some of these links are pretty useful...

BigWally · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject:

bump again, this was quite useful back at the beginning of summer for me, and with many new posters on board recently i figured a bump couldnt hurt... Surprised

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

Where is Aristotle when we need him? Still in Thailand with his wealthy friends?

BigWally · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:47 am Post subject:

bump back to page one....this thread is great for newbies