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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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But temujin is right, they are getting plenty of students in. |
That's pretty much what everyone at NCB thought 1 day before its closure. |
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sallycat
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 303 Location: behind you. BOO!
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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regarding nova's shortage of teachers. that's the result of nova deliberately under-recruiting to cover up money problems. |
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ironopolis
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 379
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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But temujin is right, they are getting plenty of students in. |
That's pretty much what everyone at NCB thought 1 day before its closure. |
Yeah, maybe so. But if anyone is thinking that Nova's going to close tomorrow, or even next month, then they're probably spending a bit too much time on the internet.
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Expect the same from Nova. When the 23 schools close and teachers need to be reduced, pinhead managers are going to take the opportunity to get even and fire some people they don't like, and then use the excuse that they dismissed the teacher due to financial problems. |
I wouldn't disagree at all that they've got more than their share of obnoxious managers. But I've known a few people in management positions at Nova over the years (and still do), all with plenty of criticisms about the company, who've often said that outside of certain periods like the initial probationary stage and when contracts are up for renewal, it's actually very hard to fire people.
So whilst of course I'd never dismiss out of hand someone complaining they'd been unfairly fired mid-contract by Nova, this would definitely make me wary of the accuracy of the complainant's version of events. And, for the same reason, I'd suggest if you're working at Nova, whereas you probably are going to be shifted from school to school and schedule to schedule quite a bit and worked much harder than people were there a few years ago, if you have even just a bit of common sense, you're really not likely at all to be suddenly fired mid-contract.
Nova having trouble getting teachers in? That's possible, but I think that's just the BS being fed to overworked teachers there now - "don't worry, there'll be more people coming through in (insert month) - it's just a bit harder to get them these days". Actually, I'm sure Nova are quite deliberately taking on much fewer newbies simply to reduce their overall number of teachers; which, given the number leaving earlier due to being worked so hard, they may well be able to achieve fairly quickly.
Obviously they're going to get lots of their customers moaning about the lack of teachers and the consequent difficulty they have in booking their lessons. Nova may well have calculated that these complaints will eventually die down and it'll be a storm they can ride out. We'll see.
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Temujin
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 90 Location: Osaka
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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ironopolis wrote: |
Obviously they're going to get lots of their customers moaning about the lack of teachers and the consequent difficulty they have in booking their lessons. Nova may well have calculated that these complaints will eventually die down and it'll be a storm they can ride out. We'll see. |
They have been getting numerous such complaints since I arrived 2 months ago. I was wondering why there was such a delay in getting new teachers in, but in hindsight it's pretty clear. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Nova being in the red is no surprise to me. When a company stops paying its managers, it's a sign that something's wrong.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=35341&start=0
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For what it's worth, I have recently been told directly by ACTUAL NOVA EMPLOYEES that their semi-annual bonuses have been cut or eliminated altogether. I'm talking about foreign admin AND Japanese staff--workers far more senior than the standard teacher or assistant trainer. Thus, lots of the Japanese staffers are quitting NOVA. I don't know if the foreign staffers are abandoning ship too, but it certainly does seem like things are indeed not going well. |
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=35341&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
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What I've heard is that all Nova managers haven't been paid in the last three months. This is not a good sign. Now it looks like even the Nova Usagi's been kicked out of its rabbit hutch.
If you're planning on coming to Japan to work for Nova, I would seriously reconsider. |
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ironopolis
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 379
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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yamanote senbei wrote: |
Nova being in the red is no surprise to me. When a company stops paying its managers, it's a sign that something's wrong.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=35341&start=0
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For what it's worth, I have recently been told directly by ACTUAL NOVA EMPLOYEES that their semi-annual bonuses have been cut or eliminated altogether. I'm talking about foreign admin AND Japanese staff--workers far more senior than the standard teacher or assistant trainer. Thus, lots of the Japanese staffers are quitting NOVA. I don't know if the foreign staffers are abandoning ship too, but it certainly does seem like things are indeed not going well. |
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=35341&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
yamanote senbei wrote: |
What I've heard is that all Nova managers haven't been paid in the last three months. This is not a good sign. Now it looks like even the Nova Usagi's been kicked out of its rabbit hutch.
If you're planning on coming to Japan to work for Nova, I would seriously reconsider. |
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Having bonuses cut when the company goes through a rough period is not unusual at all in a Japanese company. I've heard of it from many people, working in all kinds of places. Bonuses always reflect how the company has been doing. No secret Nova's done badly of late, so no surprise about the bonuses surely.
All nova mangers haven't been paid in the last 3 months?!! If that was true, it would be a bad sign, but I find it very, very hard to believe. Where did you hear it?
I personally know a couple of Nova managers quite well - only a couple, admittedly, but it's definitely not true in their case. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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ironopolis wrote: |
I personally know a couple of Nova managers quite well - only a couple, admittedly, but it's definitely not true in their case. |
Are they Assistant Area Managers or up? That's what I was talking about. If they are, ask them how they can sleep at night. |
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ironopolis
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 379
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.
You still didn't say where you heard that from. |
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Hoser

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 694 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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This "managers haven't been paid in 3 months" thing is something that I've heard floating around for quite a long time. While I do think that NOVA is feeling the crunch, I'm pretty positive that as of right now, everybody is being paid. I know I am!
The cutback in teachers really sucks. There's overtime like crazy available. It used to be that you could never get overtime and now they can't get enough people to work overtime. When I first got to my branch a little over a year ago we had 8 regular teachers and now there are only 5 of us. So that's almost a 50% decrease right there. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Money made from NOVA property management will keep them afloat. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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ironopolis wrote: |
Yes.
You still didn't say where you heard that from. |
It was from a Nova staff member in a position to know. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Money made from NOVA property management will keep them afloat. |
It's group loss, so I doubt it.
"Nova Corp said Friday it expects its group net balance to have fallen into the red in the business year through last March with a loss of 3 billion yen as a result..." |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Students bring school to book
Customers sue school as closure leaves them, staff out of pocket
By LAURA FITCH
It was payday, and Shawn Hannold's bank account was empty. A phone call from a coworker alerted Hannold the paychecks hadn't shown up in the accounts that morning.
On May. 25, Nova Corp., once the largest English school chain in Japan in terms of enrollment, declared bankruptcy.
Hannold, who needed the money for child support payments, made a beeline into his head office. There, he was told the company was going bankrupt, and that no one was getting paid. Ever.
On May. 25 of this year, Nova Corp., once the largest English school chain in Japan in terms of student enrollment, and which operated the chain of Nova language schools, Intervision, Nova Space Design, Nova Overseas Study Centre, Nova Tourist Bureau and Nova System declared bankruptcy.
Now, a group of former students have decided to launch a lawsuit against their former school, claiming that the bankruptcy was premeditated, and therefore illegal.
Though many students were surprised to see the company close its doors, to many staff working there the company's troubled situation was obvious, and many left while the going was good.
"I left in April 2004 because I knew the ship was sinking," says former Nova foreign employee "Bob," who had access to monthly sales figures, student numbers and internal staff meetings and spoke on condition of anonymity.
When Nova shut its doors, over 300 people lost their jobs, their last paychecks, their security and their benefits. According to Ken Worsley, Tokyo-based IT and marketing consultant and a former Nova staff member of four years, many of the Japanese sales staff hadn't been paid in six months. Students who had enrolled for lessons at an average cost of 500,000 yen per contract lost their money and some teachers scrambled to find enough cash to cover the next month's rent and bills.
Hannold, who had come to Nova's head office in Shinjuku to inquire about his missing paycheck, was given 100,000 yen and told not to alert the students.
"I don't know if it was out of pity for me or because they didn't want the students to riot or something," he says. "But by that afternoon I had the money deposited into my account."
Another former employee, "Ann," who was with Nova for eight years as both a teacher and an assistant manager adds, "I left about a year before the company went bankrupt, and at that stage, the management team, along with everybody else, knew the company was in very big trouble. The tough calls that could've saved the company were not made."
"I question how seriously the management team wanted the schools to survive," she continues. "As I understand it, the guys in head office were also the owners of the business, were nearing or at retirement age, and had done very nicely out of the whole deal. Where was the sense of urgency for them to save the company?"
In an interview with Asahi TV, ex-Nova president Nozomu Saruhashi spoke with a reporter in his apartment. It was small; a simple 1-DK setup that for the Japanese public represented an enormous fall from grace.
The interview was intended to highlight Saruhashi's difficult life after the bankruptcy. (To see the interview, go to http://www.notken.com/?p=article&id=32. ).
In it he claims that he sold his home to finance the business and dumped large amounts of his own money into the failing company, an extremely unorthodox business practice.
A former student involved in the litigation proceedings and who spoke on condition of anonymity says "the first (objective of the lawsuit) is litigation and criminal indictment. Just on the verge of bankruptcy the president was getting divorced. If, for example, all of his assets were distributed to his former wife, this would legally indicate a premeditated bankruptcy."
Usually it would be up to the bankruptcy administrator to handle such allegations and investigative procedures, but "the bankruptcy administrator is not looking into this matter," she continues. "We are thinking about how or if the police might be able to help us."
"I would be very interested to see an audit done on Nova's books," says Ann. "If you look at the sales figures and then take away the outgoings, the numbers just don't add up."
According to Yano Research Institute Ltd. the market size for the language learning business in Japan for the fiscal year 2004 was 632 billion yen. The "foreign language school for adults sector," to which Nova belonged, accounts for 40 per cent of the market. This is a big, lucrative business.
So, as Worsley asks "how could a company fail at a business that seems to be making so much money around the country?"
Nova's sales models closely followed those of the major "eikaiwa," -- expensive, nonrefundable contracts that were the business equivalent of taking candy from babies. Once the customer bought the contract, they weren't legally allowed a refund.
Companies focused aggressively on sales, often at the expense of the rest of the company.
In 1997, changes to the Consumer Protection Law gave consumers legal rights to refunds of the remainders of canceled contracts. The big companies like NCB, GEOS and AEON responded by expanding their services to incorporate other markets such as offering kids lessons or lessons in other languages such as French and German.
The next thing they did was brand themselves mercilessly. Think ubiquitous pink NOVA bunny or slick black-and-white-photo GEOS ads.
In quality-conscious Japan students are after the best foreign language education that they can buy. After 1997, the eikaiwa industry was forced to follow suit. Nova did none of these things.
Companies that have adapted post-Bubble and expanded their services to embrace new markets and created a successful brand image survived. The others are either consolidating or going bankrupt.
"By the time Nova died its slow, painful death," says Tokyo-based entrepreneur and former Intervision employee Albrecht Stahmer, "the company existed as an inward looking entity obsessed with its pink bunny mascot, with the students a mere afterthought.
"More time was spent debating dress codes (and) timekeeping issues than thinking of ways to improve the quality of their lessons in order to maintain customers."
"Overall, it was arguably one of the most poorly run companies imaginable," he says. "From a business point of view it's staggering the company was able to remain in business for 25 years. If the Nova people went into the funeral business, nobody would die." |
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luckyloser700
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 308 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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For those of you recently hired by NOVA and are getting ready to come to Japan, disregard the above post. Your jobs should be safe, for now. The above article was written about a company called NCB, not NOVA. Yamanote S just inserted NOVA's name into the article to make some kind of point (an extremely negative one, which is usually the case) because something has turned him into an extremely bitter arsehole.
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luckyloser700
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 308 Location: Japan
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