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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfman wrote:
From the perspective of an AEON applicant, the OP really pisses me off. Right now I feel like I would be completely blessed to have AEON offer me a job. And this guy is bragging about turning one down.


Whats even worse is that self-involved people like that actually get hired while people like you get shafted for obscure and irrational reasons. Life isn't fair, is it?
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wolfman



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
wolfman wrote:
From the perspective of an AEON applicant, the OP really pisses me off. Right now I feel like I would be completely blessed to have AEON offer me a job. And this guy is bragging about turning one down.


Whats even worse is that self-involved people like that actually get hired while people like you get shafted for obscure and irrational reasons. Life isn't fair, is it?


Haha, no it sure isn't. Although, I'm pretty confident that if I and granted an interview, I can get the position. I'm a good candidate for it. I know what to expect from an eikaiwa, and I don't mind it. I'm repeating myself here but, it's aggravating to hear about someone being so cocky that they turned down a position that I'm dying to be interviewed for.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfman wrote:
PAULH wrote:
wolfman wrote:
From the perspective of an AEON applicant, the OP really pisses me off. Right now I feel like I would be completely blessed to have AEON offer me a job. And this guy is bragging about turning one down.


Whats even worse is that self-involved people like that actually get hired while people like you get shafted for obscure and irrational reasons. Life isn't fair, is it?


Haha, no it sure isn't. Although, I'm pretty confident that if I and granted an interview, I can get the position. I'm a good candidate for it. I know what to expect from an eikaiwa, and I don't mind it. I'm repeating myself here but, it's aggravating to hear about someone being so *beep* that they turned down a position that I'm dying to be interviewed for.


The bleep was "cocky". That's stupid.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfman wrote:
Haha, no it sure isn't. Although, I'm pretty confident that if I and granted an interview, I can get the position. I'm a good candidate for it. I know what to expect from an eikaiwa, and I don't mind it. I'm repeating myself here but, it's aggravating to hear about someone being so *beep* that they turned down a position that I'm dying to be interviewed for.



And Im pretty sure if he came here within 3 months he would be whining on here about the long hours, the relatively low pay, the mind-numbing tedium of teaching low-level students, the lack of progress by his students, and the anal managers he would be forced to work with. Yes he would discover the wonderful world of paid WORK. Not getting hired by AEON is the least of his worries. Its what comes after that makes or breaks his experience here, not their attitude during a 2 day interview.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
wolfman wrote:
Haha, no it sure isn't. Although, I'm pretty confident that if I and granted an interview, I can get the position. I'm a good candidate for it. I know what to expect from an eikaiwa, and I don't mind it. I'm repeating myself here but, it's aggravating to hear about someone being so *beep* that they turned down a position that I'm dying to be interviewed for.



And Im pretty sure if he came here within 3 months he would be whining on here about the long hours, the relatively low pay, the mind-numbing tedium of teaching low-level students, the lack of progress by his students, and the anal managers he would be forced to work with. Yes he would discover the wonderful world of paid WORK. Not getting hired by AEON is the least of his worries. Its what comes after that makes or breaks his experience here, not their attitude during a 2 day interview.


Well, maybe it's a good thing he turned down the position. If he didn't like the interview, I think all your predictions about whining after the first 3 months would come true.

I, personally, think the attitude of the teacher is what makes or breaks his or her experience in Japan. The attitude of the eikaiwa is less important. I guess he didn't have the right attitude.
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senza_vavoom



Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: An AEON vent-session Reply with quote

I DEFINITELY agree with the majority of people here. I believe that you seem to be oversensitive over something that is ultimately nothing. Either you have never been employed before by corporations, but you don't seem to understand regular business in general.

Here's why :

1) " On the website, it listed the entire week for interviews. It was very vague so I took a chance in buying a plane ticket to Mexico to visit my dad. "

How can they possibly be vague with a list of the entire week for interviews? Do you REALLY think that AEON ( a large corporation ) would publish online, a list of dates that are " vague " to PURPOSELY confuse over thousands of applicants?

2) " 5 DAYS before the interview (when I was in Mexico), the contacted me via e-mail and told me that I MUST be at the interviews on Sunday or else I would not be considered for hire (I was due back on Tuesday). "

Umm...this is MANDATORY. They do contact you a few days before the interview. In fact, they contact you TWICE before your interview date....so why would you be surprised at this? Plus, in order for them to actually give you reminders of the impending interview, you would have had to accept the interview dates in the first place.....which leads me to think that you accepted interview dates that you described as " vague " ????

3) " When I was at the interview, the recruiters gave me and my girlfriend the distinct impression that they did not care about us as people....only as employees. "

YOU are an employee - NOT even an employee technically - but PROSPECTIVE employees. The last time I checked, in every single country, when you want a job, you are NOT in the position to demand how they should treat you at the INTERVIEW. Remember, you are the beggar in this situation.

4) " For example, when I went into my personal interview, I mentioned that I had bought an EXTRA plane ticket to see them. The recuiters response was simply to smile and bob her head up and down.......no 'wow, that was very nice of you' or even 'thank you for telling me that'....a simple blank stare with a grin. "

Why does she have to care? She was probably thinking, " OMG - this guy is so dense. Why is he talking to me about an extra ticket that he bought blah blah blah? " In fact, she was probably thinking, " Hmm...maybe he wouldn't have had to buy a ticket in the first place if he NEVER left the country during the interview sessions! "

5) " After all of the process, they offered me a job in which I wrote back giving them explicit reasons why I did not want to work for them. "

This is so dramatic and UNECESSARY in the business world. In fact, they didn't even hire you yet completely and you didn't even work one day's job. Why write a long letter to gripe about what you DID NOT like about them?
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Tottori-Dood



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod Edit

Been working here in West Japan and so far my AEON experience has been what I expected and FAR FAR better. Not only do they treat me like a "human being" but the staff at my school go out of their way to help me, and be friends with me - almost to the point of going overboard.

Everyone I trained with are being treated really well too. Everyone so far that I have met in AEON west Japan - from the big bosses up at head office down to the part time staff that hand out flyers - have been more polite, and helpful, to me then I ever remember ANYONE being to me where I'm from.

I get paid more then any employees of the other "big 4" chains. My schedule is such that I work about 3 hours a day (except friday and saturday). I get 2 days off a week (might as well be 5 days off). I have medical coverage.

Good luck at NOVA bro, enjoy your "Japan experience" lol.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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