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Yawarakaijin
Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Location: Middle of Nagano
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How do you HOG a forum? Everyone here has the right to post as much or as little as they like. I also don't understand how you can accuse someone of being here TOO LONG when they have a wife and children here.
I would have to agree with Paul and Glenski that if you are a newbie coming over here for the first time that an eikaiwa job is about the best that you can expect. That being said, do you have to stay at one of the big four for you entire time here? No.
Do you have to have a MA to make more than 250,000 yen? No. Nor do I believe Paul or Glenski ever suggested that 250,000 yen was the ceiling for someone without a MA. To get the better paying jobs you usually have to be here a while and have good personal connections.
Now, I certainly realize I am opening myself up to critisism from certain posters. I have never claimed to be an expert on jobs in Japan. I can only speak based on my personal experience and from the experiences of my friends. |
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X-MAN
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 16
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I make a post and come back 24 hours later and all hell breaks loose!
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Its my guess that Capper is no longer on the 700,000 a month salary, 5 jobs and 60 hour weeks he was bragging about last year, he now has a kid and hes feeling the pinch with finding good paying jobs.
Takes it out on me so he can feel better about himself.
I am meanwhile applying for a national university job this year. |
Actually, Capper is a very good friend of mine. You're right, he isn't earning 700,000 per month. Actually, he pulls in 900,000+ most months. He has 4 p/t university jobs and some business and TOEFL classes that get him as much as 250,000 some WEEKS. And actually, he helped me get a couple of my jobs. So, Paul, I'm afraid your blowing more hot air with little to back up your talk. Capper and I are teaching some business lessons at the same place and one of the students sent me this e-mail yesterday because he is unable to attend classes:
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| Recently I start to work around 8am and leave an office at 11-12pm. It is very hard and bad situation. |
The student meant 11pm-12am. Actually, as most people who live here know, this is a common thing. Salarymen often work ridiculous hours and devoting their entire life to their jobs.
I get a kick out of hearing Paul H. rant and rave about how Capper has NO LIFE and how he never sees his family etc etc etc! Well, he actually finishes work at 8:30pm on Mon., 8:40pm on Tues., 2:30pm on Wed., 7pm on Thurs., 9pm on Fri., and 5pm on Sat. In addition, he lives right downtown and drives his motorbike everywhere. Most of his commutes are about 20 minutes max. I workout at the same gym as him and I see him there at least 3-4 times every week. I know all this because I asked him and he has helped me tremendously with jobs etc. I also asked all about his schedule and jus introduced me to another one of his university employers the other day.
That's not bad for a guy who makes over 900,000/mo. teaching I'd say.
And further to your comments about his personal life, he always had every intention of staying in Japan for another 4-5 years before returning to Canada. I know you don't want him to stay but I like having him around! We often go drinking together and have a great time.
He has a gorgeous sweetheart of a wife -- my girlfriend and his wife are good friends and we often get together (the 4 of us).
Anyway Paul, nice effort but you either in a bad stuation yourself or very jealous of others.
By the way, good luck in your job search. What are you gonna do if you have to move away from Kyoto or take a huge pay cut? The older and uglier you get, the less appealing you become for universities in a lot of cases. Obviously you're very narrow-minded if you say the things you do and spend the time you do on these forums. You can't have much of a life as all of your waking hours surround this and other forums! |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well good for you. You still havent said how this is duplicatable for the average Joe-Blow who wants to earn a similar income. Capper is a one-in-a-million guy who has hit the jackpot and spends his whole time bragging about how much hes making. However a person who wants to get in on the same wicket will not have the same good luck and im sure Capper wont introduce anyone to his gigs.
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, good luck in your job search. What are you gonna do if you have to move away from Kyoto or take a huge pay cut? The older and uglier you get, the less appealing you become for universities in a lot of cases. Obviously you're very narrow-minded if you say the things you do and spend the time you do on these forums. You can't have much of a life as all of your waking hours surround this and other forums! |
The older and uglier i get the more they pay me because my salary is linked to my years of experience and qualifications. They obviously hire me because they think I can do the job and have the skills.
the current job I am applying I don't know the salary but I expect its around the high 7-figures, a good bit more than Im making now and comes with a house with 20,000 yen a month rent. Research grant of 300,000 yen, travel allowances. I will know by late next week.
Don't forget my weekend work as well. |
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X-MAN
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Paul, Capper is NOT a one-in-a-million guy. There are lots and lots of teachers who make similar money. In fact, Capper doesn't even work fr the highest paying schools. They're good ones but not the best. There are guys I've met who do 20 or more koma at top-paying schools. Some of them earn so much with that alone that they don't do much else. They have some evening and Saturday classes. Yes, Capper does well, but their are a number of teachers out there who do very well too. Myself included.
Remember, you don't live in Tokyo and you don't know the market here. Anyway, I still have a hard time understanding a lot of the posters here including yourself. Do you expect to make big money and work a mere 15-20 hours a week? You ain't gonna do that in ANY profession. Whether you're an actor/actress, pro baseball player, tennis player, golf player, or a company worker. You have to work for a living. Hard work is hard work. Maybe a lot of the salarymen in this country go through the motions for 16+ hours a day. But sme of us work hard and enjoy our free time and money. Last summer Capper took a 1-month vacation. I took about 3 weeks myself.
There are too many whiners out there. Work hard and move up in life. Quit your whining about this and that. I'd sure rather spend my time working than sit on this forum like some people.
Don't knock others. By the way, my friend Capper has a nice chunk of $$ in a North American bank account that gets him enough interest to pay a majority of his expensive monthly rent in central Tokyo.
So, Paul, don't assume you know everything.
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X-MAN
Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't forget my weekend work as well. |
Now, what are you doing? Boasting about your job interview? Get a life man. Also, your weekend work???!!!! Okay Reverend Paul H. How many phony weddings do you do every month??? Obviously your base university salary is poor or you'd be enjoying free weekends. Why would anyone with a f/t university job also choose to work weekend??? It doesn't make sense to me.
How tall are you Paul? 4'10"? People must feel bad for you. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| X-MAN wrote: |
| Paul, Capper is NOT a one-in-a-million guy. There are lots and lots of teachers who make similar money. In fact, Capper doesn't even work fr the highest paying schools. They're good ones but not the best. There are guys I've met who do 20 or more koma at top-paying schools. Some of them earn so much with that alone that they don't do much else. They have some evening and Saturday classes. Yes, Capper does well, but their are a number of teachers out there who do very well too. Myself included. |
I did twenty koma part time for over ten years in Kansai. Before you get into a pissing match lets agree that twenty koma teaching in Tokyo is the same as in kansai. Its 4 or 5 classes a day for 5 days of the week at 2-3 schools. I even taught saturdays at one point.
So think how many classes that is. 30 students a class. 20 koma or 600 students a week. thats 600 quizzes or term tests. Composition class thats 30-40 essays. Teachers teaching that many classes just go through the motions and pass everyone. Do you know what its like giving grades for 600-700 students without f--king up someones grades? Ever failed a student in his senior year and hes graduating but you dont care because hes just a number in a roll sheet?
Teaching 5 large classes in a row expends as much energy as going for a 5 mile run. Usually Im knackered after 4 classes. I suppose mr macho will say its a piece of cake.
The average university pays 20-30,000 yen a month in koma so 20 koma is about 500-600,000 yen. I was pulling in about 450,000 a month NET for 20 classes a week.
Now I work full time and teach 10 classes a weekl plus 2 part time. Wednesday there are no classes.
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| Remember, you don't live in Tokyo and you don't know the market here. Anyway, I still have a hard time understanding a lot of the posters here including yourself. Do you expect to make big money and work a mere 15-20 hours a week? You ain't gonna do that in ANY profession. Whether you're an actor/actress, pro baseball player, tennis player, golf player, or a company worker. |
So what do baseball players have to do with anything?
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| You have to work for a living. Hard work is hard work. Maybe a lot of the salarymen in this country go through the motions for 16+ hours a day. But sme of us work hard and enjoy our free time and money. Last summer Capper took a 1-month vacation. I took about 3 weeks myself. |
I have vacations too. University classes are only about 30 weeks of the year. I get 2.5 months in summer and 2 months in winter vacation. Last year I spent a month in Europe. Whats your point?
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| There are too many whiner out there. Work hard and move up in life. Quit your whining about this and that. I'd sure rather spend my time working than sit on this forum like some people. |
Again more generalisations and pithy cliches. Move up in life HOW? What should they do? How can they earn 900,000 yen a month and get a month off? How can they get an investment fund in the $US. All you talk about is he has these things but not how he got there.
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| Don't knock others. By the way, my friend Capper has a nice chunk of $$ in a North American bank account that gets him enough interest to pay a majority of his expensive monthly rent in central Tokyo. |
I have investments and money too. Family property worth over US$1 million. My mother is an asset rich millionaire. Its all relative.
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Now, what are you doing? Boasting about your job interview? |
You are spending all your time trying to cut me down to size to make you feel better about yourself and Im telling you you are talking out your a-hole.
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| Get a life man. Also, your weekend work???!!!! |
Capper works weekends as well, and hes only part time.
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| Okay Reverend Paul H. How many phony weddings do you do every month??? |
Weddings are real and so is the salary.
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| Obviously your base university salary is poor or you'd be enjoying free weekends. Why would anyone with a f/t university job also choose to work weekend??? It doesn't make sense to me. |
No you wouldn't understand, the only thing that matters to you is how many zeroes in your bank account, how great you are for making that and making sure everyone knows about it. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| And further to your comments about his personal life, he always had every intention of staying in Japan for another 4-5 years before returning to Canada. I know you don't want him to stay but I like having him around! We often go drinking together and have a great time. |
It was two years ago that Capper said he was going back to Canada once his kid was born. Now he's saying he will go back in 4-5 years. FUTURE TENSE. He hasn't gone yet which means it purely conjecture and speculation. I thought I'd be here 5 years too and I stayed much longer than that. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would anyone with a f/t university job also choose to work weekend??? It doesn't make sense to me.. |
Do you have any idea of the cost of completing graduate study on a single income with two kids?
No, I didn't think so.
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| By the way, my friend Capper has a nice chunk of $$ in a North American bank account that gets him enough interest to pay a majority of his expensive monthly rent in central Tokyo. |
Capper keeps score by reminding everyone by how much of a big shot he is because he can afford to pay (exorbitantly) high rent in Tokyo. He doesnt actually own the property. Its like Livedoors Horie bragging about his billion yen income and Porsche and hot-shot Internet company. All he was was a two-bit crook with an insecure chip on his shoulder.
Its no worse than showing off just because you are able to. |
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Jon Taylor
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Can I just say how much I hate to read about the very high salary of others.
I wish you all would shut up and keep your salary to yourself.
Most of us are earning between 230-350,000 per month and are quite happy doing so until you have to pipe up about your salaries.
I appreciate this is a forum and you have every right to do this and you could say I dan't have to read these forums but I find most of the posts both interesting and informative.
So I suggest you take your salaries and stick them up your a-holes....
I hope I speak for others in saying......we dont want to know !! |
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D.O.S.
Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Posts: 108
Location: TOKYO (now)/ LONDON
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| PAULH wrote: |
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Now, what are you doing? Boasting about your job interview? |
You are spending all your time trying to cut me down to size to make you feel better about yourself and Im telling you you are talking out your a-hole.
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| Get a life man. Also, your weekend work???!!!! |
Capper works weekends as well, and hes only part time.
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| Okay Reverend Paul H. How many phony weddings do you do every month??? |
Weddings are real and so is the salary.
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| Obviously your base university salary is poor or you'd be enjoying free weekends. Why would anyone with a f/t university job also choose to work weekend??? It doesn't make sense to me. |
No you wouldn't understand, the only thing that matters to you is how many zeroes in your bank account, how great you are for making that and making sure everyone knows about it. |
Surviving on fake weddings and a spouse visa? Oh my.
In the same fashion as X-man, you are constantly looking for extra work and can't survive on your normal salary. How are you two different? At least he survives only by TEACHING and not degrading himself.
And being in "full time job hunting mode" is not something most middle-aged teachers want to be in.
How is that worse than being in your 20's and working lots of part-time jobs.
Kettle meet pot.
Both stink to me and need to be washed. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Surviving on fake weddings and a spouse visa? Oh my. |
Im not on a spouse visa Im a permanent resident.
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| In the same fashion as X-man, you are constantly looking for extra work and can't survive on your normal salary. How are you two different? At least he survives only by TEACHING and not degrading himself. |
I look for extra work becuase 95% of universities in Japan have contracts for full time non-tenured teachers. I will add that I have half the class load he does and three times the vacation time.
Did I say I was degrading myself? thats only your opinion.
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| And being in "full time job hunting mode" is not something most middle-aged teachers want to be in. |
Virtually all university teachers of any age in the full time sector with contracts are in job-hunting mode. Like me they have families, mortgages and paying for study. many dont want to spend half their life on trains at 3 or 4 universities. Some of these high paying universities only offer one year full time contracts before they replace the teacher with someone else. Public universities like Todai etc also pay the WORST in salaries for part timers.
Its not something you want to be in, for many they have no other CHOICE.
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| How is that worse than being in your 20's and working lots of part-time jobs. |
Its having one or two kids, a mortgage, maybe one in international school. Trips back home every year to see grandma. Maybe wife doesnt or wont work. Job and livelihood is yanked from under you every two years and you are competing with 50 or 60 people, or as many as 100 in Tokyo, for ONE position.
Kettle meet pot.
Both stink to me and need to be washed.[/quote] |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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How is that worse than being in your 20's and working lots of part-time jobs.
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In Japan they call them freeters.
Do you want to be a freeter at 45 with a wife and two kids? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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This is a position for a part time university gig in Tokyo. Masters or phD required. Jobs like this usually attract over at least a 100 applicants. this university seems to advertise on a continuous basis becuase either
1. bad working conditions and high staff turnover.
2. they can not find anyone with a PhD willing to work for a university part-time.
#00236 - Tokyo-to
Job Description: The School of International Politics, Economics, and Business at Aoyama Gakuin University's Sagamihara Campus is seeking versatile part-time teachers for the 2007-2008 academic year to teach English courses; communication courses related to public speaking, discussion/debate, English in the mass media, English for academic purposes; and advanced English courses related to specific themes, such as intercultural communication, comparative culture, media studies, gender awareness, conflict resolution/peace studies, global issues, and other subjects related to international studies.
Job Details: Qualifications: Resident of Japan (both native and non-native speakers); proper visa if non-Japanese; MA or PhD in relevant areas of the humanities, social sciences, or education (including TEFL/TESOL); 3 years previous teaching experience at the university level, with at least 1 year in Japan; ability to teach language, communication, and advanced courses in English; publications and membership in relevant academic associations a plus. Salary & Benefits: Similar to other private universities in the Tokyo area. Application Materials: Send a complete resume in English, which includes details about qualifications/experience in the above areas. No personal responses (including replies to inquiries) will be made unless the applicant is being seriously considered for a position. |
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