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kelsey06
Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: Don't have a degree |
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Okay! So, I am really excited to go overseas and I have a TESL certificated, and some experience coaching, tutoring and training crew members at work, however, [b]I do not have a degree![/u] Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should begin looking for a job??[/u] |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: |
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If you are eligible for a working holiday visa, it might make a difference. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: |
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The worlds a pretty big place- where are you interested in?
A lot of Latin America is posible sans degree, and I've heard that China can be done, though is not easy. (Gregor, where are you?)
Europe is extremely varied, and depends on getting the visa...
Where are you into?
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Indonesia is open, as long as you are at least 25 years old.
Does Thailand require a degree? I think the answer is no... |
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kelsey06
Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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I havn't looked into the holiday visa, maybe I'll have to do that! But yea, Thailand would be pretty cool; I'm not looking for anywhere in Europe or anything like that. I want to go to somewhere like china or something! That's be SO sweet! If anyone knows somebody who taught English right after they finished High School, could you forward me their email address or something? |
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acwilliams
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 68 Location: Now in China, soon moving on
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Kelsey06 wrote:
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If anyone knows somebody who taught English right after they finished High School |
Kelsey, if you're not only degree-less but also under 21, then jobs in reputable schools will be very difficult to find. |
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paulmanser
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I would just get a degree. Thats what I decided to do because I want to do this career in TEFL long-term.
You will need a degree anyway as a back up for other jbos should you hate TEFL after 3 years or more.
Degrees are needed for every TEFL position that I have seen online. |
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ryandem
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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China is not a problem without a degree. I have worked in China at a University and had no degree. They did not ask me for one, nor did I present them with one. It was probably the easiest job I have ever had. I also personally know many people who have taught in China without a degree.
Almost all jobs posted on the internet will say you need a degree, but when apply for the job, they will often not ask to see one.
I would suggest that you go ahead and apply for jobs and see what happens.
Good Luck! |
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mlomker

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 378
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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China and Thailand are pretty open without a degree. Check the subforums on China here on Dave's and head over to www.ajarn.com to get the best info on Thailand. Neither location pays all that great but you'll earn enough to live on. If you're looking to travel and have some adventure then that's the ticket.
If you enjoy it after a year then head back home and pursue a B.Ed. degree in English or ESL. They very best jobs are reserved for people who are licensed teachers in their home country. Most of us don't figure out what we want to do for a living until *after* we've done the bachelor's--you have a chance to do things right from the start. |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Many people work in Thailand without degrees. Due to your age you will be more likely hired to work with younger learners - but many people prefer teaching kids anyway. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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mlomker wrote: |
If you enjoy it after a year then head back home and pursue a B.Ed. degree in English or ESL. They very best jobs are reserved for people who are licensed teachers in their home country. Most of us don't figure out what we want to do for a living until *after* we've done the bachelor's--you have a chance to do things right from the start. |
You may want to also add a masters degree. I think my masters will/has helped me more than a BEd would. It really is a matter of who you want to teach, kids or in unis. |
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Calories
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 361 Location: Chinese Food Hell
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Teaching in China is not easy??
Finding a job without a degree in China is easy. Just go for middle schools/high schools, primary schools and kindergarden jobs. |
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leavingonajetplane

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 15 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed that for a lot of jobs you don't need a degree for the job, but you do for immigration and visa purposes. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Turkey is doable without a degree, just hop across the border every 3 months. |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: |
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leavingonajetplane wrote: |
I've noticed that for a lot of jobs you don't need a degree for the job, but you do for immigration and visa purposes. |
Very true. Thailand for example - many jobs require degrees - kind of - but just to satisfy the Dept. of Labor. If you don't mind doing visa runs - most any job can be yours. |
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